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Posted on 12/24/25 at 7:21 am to Madking
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When Nolan learns to have at least B movie quality sound mixing again we can talk about him being up there.
It's worse than that - he muddies up the dialogue ON PURPOSE.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 7:48 am to boomjosh
Kubrick.
A closer call IMO with a modern filmmaker would be Kubrick or Villeneuve.
A closer call IMO with a modern filmmaker would be Kubrick or Villeneuve.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 8:51 am to LoveThatMoney
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A more interesting question would be: Spielberg or Nolan
It’s a better comparison, because Spielberg and Nolan make the same type of movies, but Spielberg by a mile
Posted on 12/24/25 at 8:54 am to 632627
I like Nolan, but Spielberg bends him over.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 9:05 am to Mudge87
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A closer call IMO with a modern filmmaker would be Kubrick or Villeneuve.
Naw that's still Nola v. DV, and DV wins easily.
There are 2 main variables with Kubrick that make him hard to top.
First, his ability to work within multiple genres. He has produced one of the funniest movies of all time, possibly the best sci-fi movie of all time, and one of the most respected horror movies of all time. What I think is his best film is a historical social satire that works on both levels. Then he has genre-benders like FMJ, Clockwork Orange, and Eyes Wide Shut.
Second, he created elevated films while being accessible. He made some exceptionally artistic works while not being art house.
The range + accessibility is what puts him in god tier. There aren't many other directors who have shown the ability to do both. Spielberg has. Scorcese has.
I doubt Nolan has the range to ever direct a worthwhile comedy. DV as well.
I previously wanted to see Nolan try horror (without the time bullshite) but I'm leery after seeing his first foray into fantasy-adventure with the Odyssey trailer. Sicaro is bordering on horror so DV has shown he can do that. He also hit Dune out of the park without any missteps like Chadamemnon.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 9:13 am to boomjosh
Kubrick,
Kubrick,
and Kubrick.
And I love Nolan.
Kubrick,
and Kubrick.
And I love Nolan.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 9:16 am to Boodis Man
he will pass him up eventually
—impossible to know
—impossible to know
Posted on 12/24/25 at 9:26 am to boomjosh
Easily Kubrick the greatest american director.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
Good post.
I want to squeeze the Coen brothers into this discussion somewhere. Although they don’t produce the cinematic masterpieces like Kubrick, and haven’t produced any grand blockbuster films like Spielburg or Nolan, their dialogue and master of character exposition and development is absolutely top-level. Possibly no one better.
This is true for their quirky comedies like Raising Arizona and Big Lebowski as well as for serious films like Fargo and No Country for Old Men.
I want to squeeze the Coen brothers into this discussion somewhere. Although they don’t produce the cinematic masterpieces like Kubrick, and haven’t produced any grand blockbuster films like Spielburg or Nolan, their dialogue and master of character exposition and development is absolutely top-level. Possibly no one better.
This is true for their quirky comedies like Raising Arizona and Big Lebowski as well as for serious films like Fargo and No Country for Old Men.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 9:43 am to Jimbeaux
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I want to squeeze the Coen brothers into this discussion somewhere
They 100% have both variables as well. Old Country really elevated their library.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 9:50 am to boomjosh
Kubrick by multiple light years
This post was edited on 12/24/25 at 10:37 am
Posted on 12/24/25 at 10:33 am to The Pirate King
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Nolan, hands down.
I love Nolan. He's one of my all time favorite directors, and most definitely my favorite of the last 30 years. With that said, Kubrick is better. Kubrick is probably the second greatest of all time behind Orson Welles.
Welles, Kubrick, Hitchcock, Nolan
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Kubrick is insanely overrated.
um, no. this is an incredibly stupid take
Posted on 12/24/25 at 10:41 am to boomjosh
Kubrick's body of work is more impressive, but I enjoy Nolan's films...
Posted on 12/24/25 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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First, his ability to work within multiple genres. He has produced one of the funniest movies of all time, possibly the best sci-fi movie of all time, and one of the most respected horror movies of all time. What I think is his best film is a historical social satire that works on both levels. Then he has genre-benders like FMJ, Clockwork Orange, and Eyes Wide Shut.
Second, he created elevated films while being accessible. He made some exceptionally artistic works while not being art house.
Frankly, the only comparator to Kubrick is Billy Wilder (or, maybe, John Ford). And Kubrick was better than both (with all due respect - I think they are criminally underrated - Hitch was great - a legitimate genius in his own right, but Wilder and Ford could make a movie for anyone. And they could do it 3 or 4 times a year.)
For Wilder - just the highlights in a 17-year period:
Five Graves to Cairo
Double Indemnity
The Lost Weekend
The Emporer Waltz
A Foreign Affair
Sunset Boulevard
Ace in the Hole
Stalag 17
Sabrina
The Seven Year Itch
The Spirit of St. Louis
Love in the Afternoon
Witness for the Prosecution
Some Like it Hot
The Apartment
And Ford's resume is even more diverse, IMHO. When you consider that he was known as being a "Western" director and won 4 directing Oscars for non-Westerns (when the Oscar still had value and was a legit benchmark for quality, unlike more recent times).
Posted on 12/24/25 at 10:52 am to boomjosh
There are only a few directors in Kubrick's tier and Nolan isn't near any of them.
Kubrick, Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Ford. Maybe Lean, Wilder.
Thats about it.
Kubrick, Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Ford. Maybe Lean, Wilder.
Thats about it.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 10:58 am to Ace Midnight
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Frankly, the only comparator to Kubrick is Billy Wilder
It's become cliche to hate on Spielberg these days, but he's up there.
I know 1941 was a failure, but when he hit Catch Me If You Can out of the park he showed he could do the comic route.
And a lot of his movies were popcorn movies but they were also technically brilliant and groundbreaking. He's made elite movies in all sorts of genres (especially if we give him credit for Poltergeist).
When he wanted to make an important adult film that required a certain level of artistry, he banged out Schindler's List (immediately after Jurassic Park no less).
Posted on 12/24/25 at 11:00 am to Jimbeaux
The Coens are great.
That's why they get hired to work on other directors' films, especially with dialogue.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 4:50 pm to BeepBopBoop
quote:Maybe unpopular, but Tenet>>>>>>>Eyes Wide Shut
After Tenet?
EWS was fricking stupid and boring
Posted on 12/24/25 at 7:21 pm to dblwall
IMO, if Kubrick's only movie was Dr. Strangelove, this would put him above Nolan. The movie is that good.
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