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re: Wheel of Time - Season 1 - Amazon - NOW A BOOK READERS THREAD
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:53 am to Roaad
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:53 am to Roaad
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He isn't healed, iirc. She severed the connection
Same thing she did in the book.
Takes a team of healers to heal him
Are you sure?
It's very possible that you're correct, but they've given us no reason to believe it's true. Didn't Mat have to continue carrying the dagger until he could be fully healed in the books?
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Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:58 am to oauron
No but they still needed the dagger until he could go to the WT to have it severed.
When Fain stole it with the Horn, they had to go search for it so Mat could have it and have the connection fully severed.
When Fain stole it with the Horn, they had to go search for it so Mat could have it and have the connection fully severed.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 11:12 am to iwyLSUiwy
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the scenes/trials in the White Tower.
Yeah, that scene bothered me as well, especially the end. They dragged the sentence and walk out for so long. What was the point? That scene wasn't in the first book. So, I assume Moiraine's exile happens later. However, at this point in the show, we don't really care about Moiraine's connection to people in the White Tower. In fact, it's established that she was rarely there. So, we didn't really care about the emotions of that scene because nothing, other than the one scene with Siuan, has really been established.
I assume Moiraine having the Aes Sedai turn their back on her will be an important part of the story, but I thought it was an odd way to show it.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 12:10 pm to oauron
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Takes a team of healers to heal him
Are you sure?
the show implied he was all good, but she did say that it would take the white ajah to truly heal him if i remember correctly.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 12:20 pm to 3nOut
Yellow?
Posted on 12/13/21 at 12:29 pm to oauron
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Also, Mat not going in the ways... This is just because of Barney Harris leaving the show? Him being healed of the dagger looked cool, but definitely thought they were going to use the dagger healing to explain the new actor. It also seemed to be really easy for Moiraine to do which definitely isn't true.
In Caemlyn, Moiraine sort of separated him from the dagger and locked it in there as long as he had it with him.
It took the circle or whatever with the tower and sa'angreal to heal him and then he had to eat a bunch / did the duel with Galad and Gawyn.
They could still be doing something like that, he is still attached, goes back for it, etc. and then has to have help to be fully healed.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 12:32 pm to Fun Bunch
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Yellow?
maybe yellow. my bad. outside of red, blue, and green, i forget about the functions of the other ajah.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 12:39 pm to 3nOut
Yellow - healing
White -logic/math etc
Grey - diplomacy
Brown - history/knowledge
Interestingly yellow is the only Ajah whose calling is specifically based on a weave of the one power directly.
White -logic/math etc
Grey - diplomacy
Brown - history/knowledge
Interestingly yellow is the only Ajah whose calling is specifically based on a weave of the one power directly.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 12:40 pm to Fun Bunch
I'm almost through with the 2nd book and am enjoying the books as well as the series.
Still have absolutely no idea where the supposed budget for this show went though, does not look top tier at all and hope it really improves going forward after season 1.
Still have absolutely no idea where the supposed budget for this show went though, does not look top tier at all and hope it really improves going forward after season 1.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 12:42 pm to DukeSilver
Some of that may be due to the deliberate choice of lighting. They went with extremely bright lighting to separate themselves from GoT and other fantasy shows that go with sepia tones and a more dark world, and that is what people are used to.
I think it was a poor choice.
I think it was a poor choice.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 1:16 pm to DukeSilver
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Still have absolutely no idea where the supposed budget for this show went though, does not look top tier at all and hope it really improves going forward after season 1.
I was thinking the same thing during the last episode. Changing locations could rack up cost I'm sure but as far as visuals, its not that epic. The huge landscape shots are very short and they are CGI. I know CGI can get more expensive than live action but they aren't doing THAT much and the visuals aren't that great. 10 million per episode seems like a major stretch.
Im not going to knock it like some and say that it looks like some fantasy show from the 90's because it doesnt, thats just hating for the sake of hating, but it certainly doesnt look like season 7 of Game of Thrones which averaged 10 mil per I think. That had Battle of the Bastard, The Door and a couple other major undertakings. I hate bringing Game of Thrones into it so much.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 2:39 pm to iwyLSUiwy
You'd be amazed how much dark lighting and sepia tones can hide. A LOT of people have commented on that. There's a reason why you see so many fantasy and scifi things go that route: it hides imperfections and gives it a "look" people are used to.
They went very very bright lighting with this, and that hides nothing, and people associate that with something other than big budget fantasy.
Anyway:
One thing that I just do not love, that I think Rafe had good intentions on, is the ensemble nature of the show.
I get him trying to do that from the beginning. I do.
But the boys have REALLY suffered as a result of this. They have had almost no character building in relation to what they should be. Rand I feel has gotten the shortest shrift of anyone. Will any non-book reader care when what happens happens?
He really should have not gone the "any 5 of them can be the dragon", kept it at 3, focused on the boys a bit more and Moiraine/Lan/Gay Warders less.
They went very very bright lighting with this, and that hides nothing, and people associate that with something other than big budget fantasy.
Anyway:
One thing that I just do not love, that I think Rafe had good intentions on, is the ensemble nature of the show.
I get him trying to do that from the beginning. I do.
But the boys have REALLY suffered as a result of this. They have had almost no character building in relation to what they should be. Rand I feel has gotten the shortest shrift of anyone. Will any non-book reader care when what happens happens?
He really should have not gone the "any 5 of them can be the dragon", kept it at 3, focused on the boys a bit more and Moiraine/Lan/Gay Warders less.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 3:48 pm to Fun Bunch
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But the boys have REALLY suffered as a result of this. They have had almost no character building in relation to what they should be. Rand I feel has gotten the shortest shrift of anyone. Will any non-book reader care when what happens happens?
He really should have not gone the "any 5 of them can be the dragon", kept it at 3, focused on the boys a bit more and Moiraine/Lan/Gay Warders less.
I agree. If you're going to do a "who could it be" ensemble with at least 5 people (and that's not including Lan, Moiraine or even Loial, Thom, Suian, etc) then you can't focus on all their stories each episode. You have to break it down to "this week we focus on Rand/Matt and Egwene/Perrin" or "Lan/Moiraine/Nynaeve and Rand/Matt", etc. Not only does it give them time to tell more of the story it slows the pace down a bit to help the viewer understand the time it takes them to get from Point A to Point B.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:49 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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But this last episode was the worst by far. Almost every scene was painful. Especially the scenes/trials in the White Tower. Every time something semi shocking was announced the whole room would gasp. Cut the camera to one person "ooh", cut to nest person "ahh", cut to next person "ooo". They did that like 5 times. Like seriously, enough already. That was just bad writing and directing.
Funny that a guy who would shun people for watching movies or shows with magic and nudity isn't entertained by the shunning in a show with magic and nudity. Shouldn't you be saying it's bad tv for an entirely different reason?
Posted on 12/14/21 at 7:15 am to Sneaky__Sally
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The books were "woke" then (and they certainly were at the time of publication). They had lesbians, polyamory, women in power and a very racially diverse world.
You may not have read it that way or understood it, but it was all very much in the text.
lesbians, polyamory, women in power, and racial diversity doesn't make something woke this makes something woke Wheel of Time improved a fantasy saga’s gender binary in just six episodes
Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:20 am to joeyb147
The entire basis for that article is wrong lol.
They think that the one power isn’t separated into two halves in the show. Saidar/Saidin have already explicitly been confirmed to match the lore of the books in one of the x-ray bonus shorts.
That article is a blatant example of someone trying to force their politics on a show and just making shite up.
They think that the one power isn’t separated into two halves in the show. Saidar/Saidin have already explicitly been confirmed to match the lore of the books in one of the x-ray bonus shorts.
That article is a blatant example of someone trying to force their politics on a show and just making shite up.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 10:25 am
Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:44 am to Roaad
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In the book: The first time he channeled was to call lightning to escape darkfriends
In the show: Rand used saidin to break the "impossible to break" door when faced with the darkfriend
Is that a fact?
My memory may be getting bad but I was almost positive his first time channeling was to help the horse "Bela" keep up with the stronger horses. Because Egwene was on it. He didn't understand he was doing it but it was hinted at.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 10:54 am
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:21 am to Mystery
The first time Rand channels is Bela. It is minor, so he doesn’t get sick until after 4 Kings lightning channeling. Pretty sure RJ confirmed that
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:28 am to Fun Bunch
Thought so. I just reread book 1 recently. It was pretty obvious.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 4:57 pm to Mystery
I read these things first when I was like 9 or 10 - I didn't even realize he did the lightning thing the first time
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