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re: What was the stupidest thing about final seasons of GOT?
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:41 am to Frac the world
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:41 am to Frac the world
I stopped watching after season 5. Up to that point the show was pretty consistent with the books and was good. Thereafter, the show writers started winging it and the show was inconsistent with the plot established in the books and became ridiculously bad.
The situation reminded me of LOST to some extent in which the writing directionally became the antithesis of the expectations of the fans.
Copilot described it as such:
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Most fans agree the writing in Game of Thrones took a sharp downturn starting in Season 7, and by Season 8 it was widely considered “ridiculously bad.” The decline is tied to the show outpacing George R.R. Martin’s books, forcing the showrunners to rely on outlines rather than detailed source material.
?? When the Decline Happened
• Seasons 1–4: Strong writing, bolstered by George R.R. Martin’s direct involvement. He personally wrote standout episodes like Blackwater (S2) and The Lion and the Rose (S4).
• Season 5: Still close to the books, though cracks began to show. This was the last season that largely followed Martin’s published material.
• Season 6: Mixed reception. Some praised big moments (Battle of the Bastards), but others noticed rushed plots and weaker character arcs.
• Seasons 7–8: Universally criticized. Plotlines became compressed, character decisions felt unearned, and spectacle replaced nuanced storytelling. The finale in particular is often cited as one of TV’s most disappointing endings.
?? Why the Writing Fell Apart
• Outpaced the Books: Martin hadn’t finished The Winds of Winter or A Dream of Spring. The showrunners had only broad outlines of his intended endgame.
• Shift in Focus: Dialogue-heavy political intrigue gave way to fast-moving battles and visual spectacle. Quantitative analysis even shows dialogue density plummeted from ~70 words per minute in Season 1 to just 10 in the final season.
• Compressed Timelines: Seasons 7 and 8 were shorter (7 and 6 episodes respectively), forcing rushed resolutions to sprawling storylines.
• Character Arcs Undermined: Beloved characters like Daenerys and Jaime were given abrupt, inconsistent endings that felt disconnected from years of buildup.
?? The Fan Consensus
• Season 5: Last season with consistent quality.
• Season 6: Transitional, with both highs and lows.
• Season 7–8: Where writing is widely considered “ridiculously bad,” culminating in the divisive finale.
In short: Game of Thrones maintained strong writing through Season 5, began wobbling in Season 6, and collapsed in Seasons 7 and 8 when spectacle overtook storytelling and the show had to invent its own endgame.
The situation reminded me of LOST to some extent in which the writing directionally became the antithesis of the expectations of the fans.
Copilot described it as such:
===========================================
Most fans agree the writing in Game of Thrones took a sharp downturn starting in Season 7, and by Season 8 it was widely considered “ridiculously bad.” The decline is tied to the show outpacing George R.R. Martin’s books, forcing the showrunners to rely on outlines rather than detailed source material.
?? When the Decline Happened
• Seasons 1–4: Strong writing, bolstered by George R.R. Martin’s direct involvement. He personally wrote standout episodes like Blackwater (S2) and The Lion and the Rose (S4).
• Season 5: Still close to the books, though cracks began to show. This was the last season that largely followed Martin’s published material.
• Season 6: Mixed reception. Some praised big moments (Battle of the Bastards), but others noticed rushed plots and weaker character arcs.
• Seasons 7–8: Universally criticized. Plotlines became compressed, character decisions felt unearned, and spectacle replaced nuanced storytelling. The finale in particular is often cited as one of TV’s most disappointing endings.
?? Why the Writing Fell Apart
• Outpaced the Books: Martin hadn’t finished The Winds of Winter or A Dream of Spring. The showrunners had only broad outlines of his intended endgame.
• Shift in Focus: Dialogue-heavy political intrigue gave way to fast-moving battles and visual spectacle. Quantitative analysis even shows dialogue density plummeted from ~70 words per minute in Season 1 to just 10 in the final season.
• Compressed Timelines: Seasons 7 and 8 were shorter (7 and 6 episodes respectively), forcing rushed resolutions to sprawling storylines.
• Character Arcs Undermined: Beloved characters like Daenerys and Jaime were given abrupt, inconsistent endings that felt disconnected from years of buildup.
?? The Fan Consensus
• Season 5: Last season with consistent quality.
• Season 6: Transitional, with both highs and lows.
• Season 7–8: Where writing is widely considered “ridiculously bad,” culminating in the divisive finale.
In short: Game of Thrones maintained strong writing through Season 5, began wobbling in Season 6, and collapsed in Seasons 7 and 8 when spectacle overtook storytelling and the show had to invent its own endgame.
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:57 am to Frac the world
Seasons 1 through 5 were great. That coincided with the book material ending and from season 6 on it just got worse and worse. Once they were out of source material they seemed to just wing it and throw shite at a wall.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 7:04 am to Frac the world
Anything having to do with Greyworm.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 7:58 am to flvelo12
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Anything having to do with Greyworm.
Grey Worm, got the most screen time for being the biggest punk, but he really played a nutless character well.
He should have gotten shanked as well.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:04 am to Frac the world
If you really wanna be upset with someone, be upset with George R.R. Martin.
He is one of the few writers with a dedicated website that his fans actively hate him. It was full of posts with nothing but disgust and hate for the writer.
They got all reason too.
This dude pumped out 3 great books in three years, then sandbagged the rest of the series. Finally he got off of his fat azz when HBO listened to the brothers pitch of the series.
He would, write "1 page a day" to preserve the intregity of the books.
He would mainly spend the day blogging, talking about New York Sports ,Painting his figurines and complanining from the anomonsity of his fanbase.
He is one of the few writers with a dedicated website that his fans actively hate him. It was full of posts with nothing but disgust and hate for the writer.
They got all reason too.
This dude pumped out 3 great books in three years, then sandbagged the rest of the series. Finally he got off of his fat azz when HBO listened to the brothers pitch of the series.
He would, write "1 page a day" to preserve the intregity of the books.
He would mainly spend the day blogging, talking about New York Sports ,Painting his figurines and complanining from the anomonsity of his fanbase.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:17 am to Frac the world
the entire north of the wall episode was the low point…nothing about it made any sense at all. Not the idea, not the execution, not the result
the single stupidest episode of prestige TV ever produced
the single stupidest episode of prestige TV ever produced
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:23 am to Frac the world
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:42 am to Sunnyvale
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George R.R. Martin
Painted himself into a corner and appears to not be clever enough to work out a solution. The final books will never be released
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:55 am to bad93ex
quote:for example…
Painted himself into a corner
the night king and his army are an existential threat, they can and will destroy everything and there is very little if anything that can be done about it. They are for all practical purposes invincible
however, they cannot advance past the wall. Everyone north of the wall is doomed, but south of the wall is safe, no matter what
so…that’s kinda the end of the story
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:00 am to Lawyered
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Who has a better story than Bran the broken, so important that he was absent from an entire season.
If we’re just supposed to pick 1, this is the very obvious answer.
Also a good time to repost this:
pitch meeting
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:13 am to Frac the world
quote:
What was the stupidest thing about final seasons of GOT?
Another not mentioned yet is all of the morons here and elsewhere that insisted people that didn’t like the final season were just mad because it didn’t end the way they wanted it to.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:45 am to Open Your Eyes
Honorable mention
The entire Dothraki horde does a Leeroy Jenkins charge into the white walkers at Winterfell. They’re all seemingly decimated instantly as their sword fires are extinguished
Then the next episode they’re all back on horseback celebrating Dany as she gives her speech
The entire Dothraki horde does a Leeroy Jenkins charge into the white walkers at Winterfell. They’re all seemingly decimated instantly as their sword fires are extinguished
Then the next episode they’re all back on horseback celebrating Dany as she gives her speech
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:25 am to cgrand
quote:
for example…
however, they cannot advance past the wall. Everyone north of the wall is doomed, but south of the wall is safe, no matter what
so…that’s kinda the end of the story
That goes back to the Ole`Nans stories, which were great.
But as long as there was a Stark in Winterfell, They couldnt pass the wall.
Once that changed they could.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 2:12 pm to Frac the world
Sam still being fat, after walking months in the snow with hardly anything to eat.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 2:18 pm to cgrand
There must always be a Stark in Winterfell. Bran and Rickon left, that's when the others came south.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 3:40 pm to Frac the world
quote:
What was the stupidest thing about final seasons of GOT?
The entire thing.
Amazing that fat frick STILL hasn’t finished winds.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 3:43 pm to Sunnyvale
quote:Yeah, but they basically blew off the PTWP prophesy in favor of a quick, easy resolution.
And having Arya kill the Night King.
John Snow, couldnt kill everyone.
I still think they may have intentionally botched the ending. Bob Iger announced that they'd been awarded the SW trilogy after the infamous coffee cup episode aired. Interesting timing.
Once GoT was ruined, Iger pulled the rug out and 'D&D's' careers were over, basically.
Fortunately, the other series are looking good, though HBO seemed intent on ruining HotD with the bullshite they pulled last season, and it's still fun to discuss the various theories.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:44 pm to Frac the world
Little Finger and Varys turning into morons and getting themselves killed.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:04 pm to Frac the world
quote:
What was the stupidest thing about final seasons of GOT?
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:10 pm to Frac the world
The 7 kingdoms agreeing to Bran being king but also the Starks getting the North as an independent kingdom.
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