What major plot points do you think the Sequel Trilogy would have taken without Rian?

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In the second film we see Luke training Rey but it's obvious old age as taken it's toll on Luke, however he isn't close to the clown we saw in Last Jedi. He went in seclusion to best determine how to go forward and has a plan to defeat Snoke. Big reveal of the film is Snoke as Plagueis. Luke Sacrifices himself at the end of the movie to save Rey against Plagueis and Kylo. Rey is clearly undermatched against Kylo and he was on the verge of killing her before Luke intervenes. Kylo betrays his master at the end of the film and kills Plagueis.

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None of this was ever going to happen, but it's because of Kennedy, not Johnson. Sucking off the Chinese also had a lot to do with it, but shite like Laura Dern being forcefricked into the movie, Leia becoming Jedi Mary Poppins and Rey being invincible were always going to be a part of it because of Kennedy.

personally i would have said the following:

1. rey finds luke and when he sees how powerful she is he decides to train her.
2. we find out that luke did what he did to Ben and ben flips to dark side but the other students follow him because of his name and strength and become the knights of ren.
3. snoke is revealed as plagueis. rey and luke go after him and kylo, luke sacrifices himself to save ben and proves that he did love him and fricked up.
4. ben turns on snoke and gets rey out as she is losing to him. The go back and lick their wounds.
5. Hux comes in happy as hell as he is the new ruthless leader of the FO.

ep 9 is rey and ben gathering people and lining up a plan to attack and take out hux and snoke and break the FO.

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Plagueis apparently discovered how to cheat death, so it could’ve been that it didn’t matter that Kylo killed him in TLJ. He could’ve just kept jumping bodies or something.

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Which is exactly what they did with his apprentice, Palpatine.

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Warfarer

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That is a great second movie. Take notes Rian

Sith is really just the Super Adventure Club from a long time ago.

Rose Tico gets her taco plowed by a group of Finn clones, then declares her love of them all, because, you know...

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without Rian

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without Rian? Hell how about not starting the trilogy with a reboot of the 1st Star Wars movie?

Ep 7: How about instead of Snoke, we get Darth Plagueis? Who is was forced out of his re-animation process because not only did a Skywalker bring balance to the force, but Luke is kicking butt all over the galaxy. Its now or never for the Sith Lord

Plagueis has Leia killed and comes to Ben to get him to blame Han for not being there to protect her. Han and Leia are still together, but he charters out the Falcon, and is gone. A lot. Ben confronts Han at the funeral and reveals his dark side toward him

As lead instructor at Lukes Jedi Academy, Ben begins recruiting the Knights of Ren from former and current students, while Luke is away as head of the council putting out fires. Han contacts Luke, who races back just in time to confront Kylo and the Knights, but massive destruction ensues with Han being gravely injured as the Knights flee to a Plagueis stronghold

Ep 8: Han recovers after being placed in carbon freeze for surgery, and sees the conflict in Luke. He tells him to seek out a girl that he met on his travels named Rey. She was very strong with the force, but clueless as to why. She could be a valuable asset if they need to confront Kylo again

Luke finds Rey and instantly senses her to be a Palpatine. He also recognizes the good in her, and trains her without telling her everything. Meanwhile, the Knights are subduing governments across the galaxy and forcing them to join the First Order

While Luke is away, Han, Lando, Poe and others are tasked with leading the charge against Plagueis and his now formidable army. Ben senses his fathers involvement and leads a mission to destroy his base. Luke also senses this and takes Rey to save Han. They arrive too late and find Han dying. Rey confronts Kylo and they frick each other up

Ep 9: Luke anticipating a rebellion on this order has hidden Jedi assets across the galaxy, who are activated and ensnare Plagueis and the Knights in a ever tightening circle of defeats

As Luke and Rey confront Plagueis, Kylo and the few remaining Knghts, Plagueis tells Rey about her heritage and convinces her to turn on Luke. As she is about to strike the final blow to Luke, Ben recognizes that Leia was killed by Plagueis and intervenes

As the Rey/Ben light saber battle intensifies, a severely injured Plagueis attempts to flee and regroup, but Lukes final act to is sever Plagueis head from his body, thereby ending the ability to reimage himself again

That distraction allows Rey and Ben to talk out a plan. Ben has to go into hiding, because of all the destruction Kylo has caused. No one ever has to know that Rey turned briefly to the dark side. They give Luke a Jedi burial with Ben in disguise and Rey assumes head of the council, with Luke as her guiding spirit

Well, based on what JJ did with the Force Awakens, I can only imagine that Episode 8 would have been called the First Order Strikes back. And, the plot would've basically been identical to the Empire Strikes Back.

a better discussion would be without Kathleen.