re: Westworld S1 E08: "Trace Decay"

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maybe if the timelines are within a short amount of time of each other, but i'm seeing 30 years being thrown around in this thread. he has looked the same age in every episode

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Ford has been shown with the MiB, Teddy, present Maeve and Maeve from the prairie from 1 year ago.

We see Bernard talking to Delores in the room that looks like the room where Teresa was killed but if it were the same room then it was earlier because you can see the table was different, there was no host making machine and the door wasn't blocked by the bookshelf.
If you go with the Arnold=Bernard theory and the William=MiB theory then the incident where Arnold is killed would be the same time where Delores is talking to Bernarnold and he tells her to find the maze, and she ends up with William doing exactly that. I think the massacre at the church implies Delores went off the rails but she shot everyone with a gun and you can't kill any non hosts with guns because it doesn't affect them the same. I don't think this was the same thing as "the incident 30 years ago", it was before.
I think it showed Arnold at the time that there is something deeper going on and we see him (Bernarnold) take a special interest in Delores (parallel to the Asian guy with Maeve), that's when he starts having his private meetings with her and the subsequent "finding the maze to be free" comments. I think her and William are going to see where Arnold meets his death looking for the maze(probably Ford killing Arnold so they couldn't) and that's how the MiB even knows about Arnold and the maze because he actually saw it go down 30 years ago. And would explain why Ford is trying to stop him in the present day.

ETA: We also find out that Bernard killed Elsie, after Elsie had told him that the coding from the relay at the old theater seemed to have been written by Arnold in the present day. This would be explained by Bernard being Arnold, being controlled by Ford as a host.

Mmhmm

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You fricks are mind boggling. So in a park so intricate they have this girl running back and forth from hostesses duties on the train to moonlight as a hooker later on that night.

This isn't a 19 year old working 2 fricking jobs for some extra cash. Damn difficult trying to guide you all through this shite

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I don't have time to ready all the post in here but by going off of who you are replying to I laughed.
It blows my mind that people can still hold on to one point in time. Episode 8 all but confirmed many points in time.


Present time: MiB and Teddy, Maeve going crazy, Bernard kill scene

1 to 2 years ago: Maeve getting stabbed by the MiB

30 years ago: William and Logan

34-35 years ago. Flashbacks from Ford and Flashbacks from Dolores in the town with the church when it was still above ground. This is before the park opened.

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34-35 years ago. Flashbacks from Ford and Flashbacks from Dolores in the town with the church when it was still above ground. This is before the park opened.

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If you go back to the episode Contrapasso, the MiB says that "Arnold died 35 years ago, and almost took the place with him. Almost, but not quite, thanks to me." I'm thinking that the MiB is William, William and Logan who represent Delos ends up buying the park, and William ends up being the head guy at Delos. He references his wife killing herself after she sees how the park changed him over the years and the suspicion that he was an entirely different person, as William explains to Delores during the last episode.

Another thing I caught on a rewatch was that during one of Delores' flashbacks to the old church she was hunched over a grave with her own name on it. Not sure what the context of that is, but I hope they bring light to that.

ETA: Ford also mentions that the board had no issues scrubbing Arnolds name and association with the park from the history books. I'm wondering if that also had something to do with the fact that two of the controlling members of the board of the company that bought them were there whenever it happened.

Another thing I noticed is that Bernard is dressed differently in the scenes he is privately meeting with Delores. Its like he has an entirely different wardrobe.

And this is what is starting to bother me about the show.

Most of our discussions are on timelines and hidden meanings and crap. We aren't really discussing what goes on in the show because frankly, not much happens in each episode. The last two episodes have gotten somewhat better but frankly, the storylines haven't advanced that much since the beginning.

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Another thing I caught on a rewatch was that during one of Delores' flashbacks to the old church she was hunched over a grave with her own name on it. Not sure what the context of that is, but I hope they bring light to that.

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I was thinking Dolores was related to Arnold and died so he made a robot of her

The only two timelines I can even remotely buy at this point is when they are talking to the hosts in the labs. The scenes in the park of William and MIB are going on at the same time. Damn people. William and Delores were talking in front of the burned church. He isn't in the fricking past

Repeat after me. William IS NOT the MIB. Unless he's Benjamin fricking button

ETA the whole reason teddy is with the MIB is because he keeps telling teddy that Wyatt has Delores. That lie works because she isn't in her normal loop. She is with William.

thank you this is what I've been telling people and they refuse to believe it. It's like they can't live without there being some sort of twist

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He hasn't rebuilt them yet. In the episode they said he dug it up.