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re: Westworld S1 E08: "Trace Decay"

Posted on 11/20/16 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by Puck82
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 10:24 pm to
How can anyone buy William = MIB. A show that is so detail oriented wouldn't use a guy with distinguishable facial markers like the moles on Williams face to portray the younger version of MIB. They would atleast cover them up. Makeup is cheaper than the damn props and costumes.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 10:27 pm to
yeah not buying will=mib anymore
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 10:28 pm
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 10:33 pm to
I am thinking two times and no to Will=MiB. I think the scene with the church being buried seals it for me.

But I think for sure MiB and SuperMaeve are both happening in the present.
Posted by Puck82
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 10:35 pm to
If anything they proved MIB does not equal William. William is in the future timeline. Not the past. The girl they showed with teddy and MIB was the same girl walking with the umbrella in Delores flashbacks. So to me that means they are in the same timeline.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 10:37 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

If anything they proved MIB does not equal William. William is in the future timeline. Not the past. The girl they showed with teddy and MIB was the same girl walking with the umbrella in Delores flashbacks. So to me that means they are in the same timeline.


That was also the hostess that greeted William when he arrived at the reception center before he got on the train.

So, to recap

1. She was in the old town Dolores was in where some earlier hosts were learning to dance, and I'm pretty sure where the massacre happened
2. She's with Teddy and MiB
3. She was William's greeter when he arrived before he got on the train.

THREE TIMELINES?!
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 11:32 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:09 pm to
The girl is a host. She could be in any timeline.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33976 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:14 pm to
One timeline

William is not the mib

Bernard is most certainly not Arnold

Most theories posted in the past 7 threads all debunked in one episode
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16153 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:33 pm to
Yeah I have no clue where all of these People are saying 2 timeliness confirmed. The opposite happened it actually pretty obviously showed it's 1 timeline. Some people just refuse to take off the tin foil hat
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:44 pm to
Just had my mind blown by a friend of mine. Teddy (Theodore) killed the Minotaur.

Greek Myth - Theseus and the Minotaur
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33976 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:51 pm to
Throw in the whole labrynth theme into it and he may really be on to something
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:59 pm to
they can swap out hosts in minutes most likely. I don't think I have seen anything that proves multiple timelines.

Interesting theories though. I waS wrong about Bernard so I could be wrong about the timelines.

Maeve is getting too much leeway. Surprised they don't just pull her out.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:03 am to
quote:

Yeah I have no clue where all of these People are saying 2 timeliness confirmed. The opposite happened it actually pretty obviously showed it's 1 timeline. Some people just refuse to take off the tin foil hat


"Doesn't look like anything to me." is usually what hosts say when they see something real that's upsetting to them.

Keep telling yourself there's only one timeline, robot.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:05 am to
quote:

The end of the episode did give some pause on two timelines but I still think the appearance of the blonde working with Wyatt and MIBs comment point to two timelines.


If anything, it is a smaller time gap than people think. I kind of hope it's one timeline though just to see the melt from everyone who insisted there was two.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:06 am to
quote:

I don't think I have seen anything that proves multiple timelines.


"Doesn't look like anything to me"

Okay, how about that fricking church then?

It's nice and intact when Dolores is there with all the early hosts that she flashes back to massacred in the streets.

It's burned out and half buried when Ford goes up there with little boy host.

Two timelines. At a minimum
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:07 am to
quote:

A show that is so detail oriented wouldn't use a guy with distinguishable facial markers like the moles on Williams face to portray the younger version of MIB. They would atleast cover them up. Makeup is cheaper than the damn props and costumes.


Surgery exists now to remove moles. You seriously think they haven't advanced surgery far enough in a world with completely lifelike robots?
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1397 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:20 am to
quote:


Not at all, in fact it confirmed one timeline. You clearly see that Delores is having flashbacks to the massacre 30 years ago when she's with william. A big point of the episode is in fact explaining how she's in the present remembering the past which is where she massacred everyone and then killed herself. Potentially with the help of a guest and this old town and church that she and William just discovered, which is the old church ford has something planned for, is where it all went down original and must've been one of the first towns in westworld.


I don't agree. Talahah Riley being in the park and her interaction with the MIB is present timeline. Her interaction with William is in the past. Hosts don't age but wear and tear still occurs. MIB's surprise at seeing and his words to her means her job as aWestworld greeter was years ago. It also could mean that William is MIB. There are at least three timelines going on here.

Added: on rewatch Talulah Riley was also in the town with the church before the massacre. Three timelines easily.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 12:40 am
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28587 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:45 am to
There's actually 3 timelines going on. You heard it here first
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:54 am to
quote:

There's actually 3 timelines going on. You heard it here first


Nah. 12 or 13 posts above that.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 12:55 am
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23418 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:17 am to
Am I the only one that caught that the MiB told Teddy that he married his wife 30 years ago, about the same time he started coming to the park. William is about to marry his old lady once he gets back from the park. Interesting.
Posted by HerbTyler985
Boone, NC
Member since May 2011
327 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:27 am to
i would have an easier time getting on board with the multiple timeline theory if not for one thing. this might be easily explained, but ford has interaction with people (including MiB) and hosts in both/multiple supposed timelines. he looks exactly the same in all of those interactions. he's an old man. wouldn't he either look younger or older in some of these interactions?

maybe if the timelines are within a short amount of time of each other, but i'm seeing 30 years being thrown around in this thread. he has looked the same age in every episode.
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