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re: Westworld Episode 10: The Bicameral Mind. Photos.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:11 pm to Carson123987
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:11 pm to Carson123987
yeah the whole Mauve thing, from start to finish, was just bad
*ETA: i mean her whole story
*ETA: i mean her whole story
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
Anthony Hopkins made this show for me.
It will be really tough to maintain this greatness in a new setting and without him. He was absolutely captivating with his dialogue.
I'm holding out hope he just got Dolores to kill a host version of himself, but that would be lazy storytelling and I don't think that's the case.
It will be really tough to maintain this greatness in a new setting and without him. He was absolutely captivating with his dialogue.
I'm holding out hope he just got Dolores to kill a host version of himself, but that would be lazy storytelling and I don't think that's the case.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yeah the whole Mauve thing, from start to finish, was just bad
*ETA: i mean her whole story
The Mauve thing was a total ruse. She was acting on a script the whole time and in the end she didn't escape and went back because that was part of her script.
It was to create mayhem in the building so security was distracted.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:17 pm to Dam Guide
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I think by the time he finds her again in town he had switched to black hat, but he still retraced his steps with her to see if he could get her a few times to remember/be more. That's what I took out of that scene at least.
I interpreted it as William's realization that she did not have awareness. That the can-drop introduction was merely her programming that there was nothing special about his interaction with Delores. His actions the past few days were solely because he wanted to do them for himself, not for any greater reason.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:21 pm to GurleyGirl
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Just as Dr. Ford made the ultimate sacrifice to give his creations freedom to evolve on their own so too did the show creators/writers in sacrificing Hopkins' character for the greater good/development of the series going forward. /salute
I think that was a Ford host body double.
Ford is still alive
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:24 pm to 9th life
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I interpreted it as William's realization that she did not have awareness. That the can-drop introduction was merely her programming that there was nothing special about his interaction with Delores. His actions the past few days were solely because he wanted to do them for himself, not for any greater reason.
Yup. Logan tried to warn him about that but he thought Delores was special.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:25 pm to prplhze2000
My new go to "It's Happening" face
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:26 pm to prplhze2000
or even if she was special, she will "slide back" into her programming
either way, her awakening in front of him was a facade
either way, her awakening in front of him was a facade
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
The "it doesn't belong to them, it belongs to us" was stolen/ a tribute to an old Soul Reaver game too. Sure, it could be coincidence, but I doubt it. Same circumstances (just vampires vs humans instead), Nolan is a big gamer, and the delivery is exactly the same.
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I wouldn't go this far. She was reset. Doesn't mean it wasn't happening then. I think we can assume that it was her first trip back to the town where she killed everyone. No way she makes it back there without her internal struggles and the things she did along the way to push a story that wasn't a true narrative until Ford made it one.
either way, her awakening in front of him was a facade
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:33 pm to TheCaterpillar
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She was acting on a script the whole time and in the end she didn't escape and went back because that was part of her script.
Not so sure her coming back was in the script. I think that was her free will and choosing to come back. Just my take though
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:34 pm to ell_13
what i mean was that, at that point, when he saw her change back so easily, it was a facade overall
i think that's why he had a perverse smile after being shot by hosts
he was all like
i think that's why he had a perverse smile after being shot by hosts
he was all like
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:35 pm to Itismemc
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My new go to "It's Happening" face
Also works for the "I'm batshit insane!" face.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I think he, along with us as the audience, have to make a determination. Until proven otherwise, all of the hosts besides Dolores and Bernard are doing as they're programmed to do. I think those two are the only ones up for debate right now.
i think that's why he had a perverse smile after being shot by hosts
he was all like
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:36 pm to ell_13
Well congrats man. I had no clue Ford planned the revolt to include his own death and that he was controlling Maeve. Didnt think that would be the final narrative for sure.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:38 pm to ell_13
they could definitely go all Animal Farm/Planet of the Apes among the hosts in the future
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:42 pm to bamafan1001
quote:I didn't either until the gun was left as I said.
I had no clue Ford planned the revolt to include his own death
quote:They hinted multiple times that someone was messing with her code. I think since the first time the two idiot techs looked at her code and the white one freaked out. At that point, you had to question if what she was doing was planned.
that he was controlling Maeve
It wasn't an "I'M RIGHT!!! HAHAHA" post. All I meant originally is that these threads and the internet in general make it tough to really surprise viewers who look at things so hard and every possible guess is thrown at there so you have to consider it if at least only to laugh at it. Look at this thread. We are all speculating as to where next year leads. There's a good chance someone is right somewhere between now and then. And if you read it before hand, even if you discount it, it lessons "the blow".
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:46 pm to ell_13
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. All I meant originally is that these threads and the internet in general make it tough to really surprise viewers who look at things so hard and every possible guess is thrown at there so you have to consider it if at least only to laugh at it. Look at this thread. We are all speculating as to where next year leads. There's a good chance someone is right somewhere between now and then. And if you read it before hand, even if you discount it, it lessons "the blow".
no worries
every now and again a true detective season 1 comes along
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:50 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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I think that was a Ford host body double. Ford is still alive
Just my theory, but I think that Ford is dead, and that he knew it would come to this.
Delores was killing Ford, not a host. As shown by Maeve and her fellow rebels, the hosts can identify their own kind. If Delores was executing Ford's host, I think she would have seen it for what it was and the choice wouldn't be there. If she didn't, then she would just be carrying out more programming that Ford gave her.
I have to think that Ford's ultimate goal was to develop fully sentient beings. That was the goal from the beginning with Arnold and the Escalante settlement. I am still debating whether the act of killing Ford was the final step to demonstrate her free will and ultimately set her free, or if he knew that that if lived he would continue meddle in her programming never letting her be free.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:50 pm to rebel of fortune
I wonder if Ford hired the world's worst security team on purpose
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