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re: Westworld Episode 10: The Bicameral Mind. Photos.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:43 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:43 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:Y'all are some confused mfers right now.
exactly. So why did they show us Dolores kill Bernard not Arnold?
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:46 pm to TheCaterpillar
What I don't understand is how Bernard could show up and literally no one remembers Arnold?
I mean he was a pretty damn important guy. 30 years isn't that long, and there would be a massive amount of material on the guy, almost certainly.
No one at Delos just did a Google search of "Arnold + Westworld"
I mean he was a pretty damn important guy. 30 years isn't that long, and there would be a massive amount of material on the guy, almost certainly.
No one at Delos just did a Google search of "Arnold + Westworld"
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:47 pm to ell_13
quote:then unconfuse me
Y'all are some confused mfers right now.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:48 pm to Fun Bunch
Well he wasn't famous and died before there was a board or a single guest in the park.
He was just a random scientist.
And Ford didn't recreate him for like 20 years.
He was just a random scientist.
And Ford didn't recreate him for like 20 years.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:50 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:
then unconfuse me
They never showed Dolores killing Bernard. Dolores killed Arnold. That's why you're confused
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:50 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Dolores never kills Bernard.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
No one gets to the that level of advanced technology without some level of notoriety.
He went to school somewhere, probably MIT. He was assuredly a big time student.
They had to get funding from somewhere to start building the Hosts and Escalante, etc etc etc.
And he wasn't a "random scientist", he was Ford's partner.
Almost everyone in this day and age has a digital footprint. We have to imagine this takes place relatively far in the future where it would be inescapable.
He went to school somewhere, probably MIT. He was assuredly a big time student.
They had to get funding from somewhere to start building the Hosts and Escalante, etc etc etc.
And he wasn't a "random scientist", he was Ford's partner.
Almost everyone in this day and age has a digital footprint. We have to imagine this takes place relatively far in the future where it would be inescapable.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:52 pm to Merck
quote:
They never showed Dolores killing Bernard. Dolores killed Arnold. That's why you're confused
I saw Dolores shoot a black man. Arnold was white
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:53 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:
Arnold was white
wat
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:54 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:
Arnold was white
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:54 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Or maybe the white guy you saw in the show wasn't Arnold?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:57 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:
there are scenes with the real Arnold (looks like Bernard, isn't) and Dolores.
I'm fairly convinced now that any scene with Jeffrey Wright and Evan Rachel Wood in a 2-shot that is not clearly the large facility (in other words, any scene in the remote or out of the way, small facility) represents Arnold - flashbacks or memories, however you want to describe them. Certainly most of them appear to be, now, in hindsight.
It's Arnold's voice she hears, generally, telling her to do things. Now, in the present that may have been manipulated by Ford - he even admits in this episode that he's deliberately kept Bernard and Delores apart because they have strange effects on each other.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:58 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:I'm going to need you to be a little more specific here so we can bring you back to making sense.
Who was the guy storming off with Ford yelling "ARNOLD!" Then that's also in the picture?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:58 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:
I saw Dolores shoot a black man. Arnold was white
Go back and watch all the episodes again, then come back and tell us you were wrong, baw.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:59 pm to ell_13
Yeah I'm mind fricked
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:00 pm to LSU2NO
quote:
No, Arnold was a real person. Notice the real Arnold didn't have glasses. Now Ford could have created an android Arnold before Arnold died. I also think that Delores is Ford's memories and persona. Ford is now immersed in this world he created. Also, it allows Anthony Hopkins to exit the series.
I agree with the guy earlier who said that some people seem to be totally missing Ford's ultimate redemption. Some guy was still calling him an evil monster. This episode showed he was not. He sacrificed himself and the board to finally give the hosts freedom/free will/consciousness. In this act, he truly become symbolically God, rather than a guy with a God complex.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
SlowFlowPro
Why exactly do you continue to watch the show if it's so miserable for you?
Go watch Game of Thrones reruns instead of shitting all over this show.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:02 pm to Hot Carl
quote:
In this act, he truly become symbolically God, rather than a guy with a God complex.
Not exactly - God doesn't usually die. But a sacrificial messiah figure (effectively displacing Arnold in that role)? Yeah.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:02 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:100% true. I'll double check on my rewatch, but doesn't Ford tell them there at the end that he purposefully kept them apart until that moment? But I thought I remember Dolores being interviewed by Bernard in the Mesa. Maybe that was just Elsie...
I'm fairly convinced now that any scene with Jeffrey Wright and Evan Rachel Wood in a 2-shot that is not clearly the large facility (in other words, any scene in the remote or out of the way, small facility) represents Arnold
quote:And there you've said it...
It's Arnold's voice she hears, generally, telling her to do things. Now, in the present that may have been manipulated by Ford - he even admits in this episode that he's deliberately kept Bernard and Delores apart because they have strange effects on each other.
Dolores hears/remembers Arnold who she then makes the connection that it's her own voice. That Arnold has never said some of those things and she's leading herself to the center of the maze... which is exactly what the maze is: being your own leader, making your own decisions.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:02 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:
I saw Dolores shoot a black man. Arnold was white
I died at this comment
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