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re: Were the last two seasons of Game of Thrones actually bad television?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:32 pm to CollegeFBRules
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:32 pm to CollegeFBRules
quote:Some things just needed to be far better developed, so however long it took to do that right.
How much longer would have been the right length?
1) Sansa hating Dany and acting like she did, made zero fricking sense.
Dany's fight was with Cersei Lannister; as was Sansa's. Down the road there could be trouble, but for the time being, it was in both's best interests to unite against King's Landing. Support from the North (and a marriage with Jon) should craft the North into Most Favored Region status.
Oh, and by the way, Dany is coming out of her way (and putting her quest for the Iron Throne on hold) to save Sansa from the fricking Zombie Apocalypse. No hyperbole or exaggeration, that is the exact, actual purpose. Sansa would be well-served to learn a little humility, gratitude and diplomacy, considering what she faced.
Dany would have been well within her rights to say OK, you deal with that on your own, and then if you survive we can debate how you want to avoid war with the Throne once I take it.
Dany's turn to psychopath was far too rushed. It should have been built up more, at least another season beyond the defeat of the Dead. She snapped in, basically, a matter of weeks.
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:04 am to CollegeFBRules
Season 7 shows the first cracks, but still has some pretty good moments (like Dani attacking the Lannister army, the dialogue between Jamie Lannister and Olenna Tyrell, etc.) but sadly none of the really good points from S7 made it to S8, only the shite.
Dani's descent into madness was too rapid and too out of character. For someone who was all about saving people and giving them their freedom to suddenly being angry because someone else was getting recognition? They also had a bad habit of having the smartest people in Westeros do incredibly stupid shite.
Dani's descent into madness was too rapid and too out of character. For someone who was all about saving people and giving them their freedom to suddenly being angry because someone else was getting recognition? They also had a bad habit of having the smartest people in Westeros do incredibly stupid shite.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:00 am to jeff5891
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season 6. It’s was top notch
no it wasn't. It wasn't the garbage that S7-8 were, but it was terribly written. DandD did a great job of producing the written material, but they showed that they had no idea how to translate and deliver these characters once Martin's brilliant characterizations weren't there for them anymore. S6 was a beautifully produced mess that had some great moments but was flat overall. Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:04 am to Napoleon
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Jon fricking Snow to be King
Speak for yourself. I hated the Jon Snow character. As far as I know Jon is still dead. If Martin never writes the next book Jon will remain dead to me. Only positive thing out of Martin being such a crappy storyteller. A good storyteller understands every story has a beginning, a middle and an ENDING!!!
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:11 am to Tigers2010a
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Yep all that psychological buildup and then a nothing burger. Stephen King often had that problem as well.
The idea of a singular connected leader was always a stupid idea from day one.
The dread and terror of the dead army is that they seem like an unrelenting and unstoppable force that will require all of Westeros's cooperation to extinguish.
The entire introduction of the Night King as this deus ex-baddie was utterly retarded.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:22 am to CollegeFBRules
Some of it was good but a lot of it was really disappointing.
I did love the beyond the wall episode.
I did love the beyond the wall episode.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:50 am to CollegeFBRules
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Regicide without punishment could not have been permitted.
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the action of killing a king.
a person who kills or takes part in killing a king.
Under that definition Robert took part in killing the king being the one who lead the Rebellion.... he was King.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:55 am to skrayper
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Season 7 shows the first cracks
the cracks are there as soon as Storm of Swords ends, tbf feast and winds of winter are lesser books.
Season 5 has major deviations from the books which was bound to happen but D&D wasn't capable of handling it. It got ignored cause Hardhorn was bad arse.
The sandsacks sucked
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:01 am to CollegeFBRules
I didn't see the last season....
....I watched it, but didn't see it (because every other setting was pitch black). It was the most frustrating season of any series I've ever watched. That doesn't even touch on the storyline.
ETA...
....I watched it, but didn't see it (because every other setting was pitch black). It was the most frustrating season of any series I've ever watched. That doesn't even touch on the storyline.
ETA...
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:10 am to CollegeFBRules
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I think my curiosity is just wondering what people wanted to see. D
Mostly just wanted to see any logical plot points take place and for any character to make decisions that actually fit with their character development that was built during the shows run.
If Bran being name King wasn’t offensive enough for you then it’s not worth the effort outlining the other 1800 things again
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:12 am to CollegeFBRules
Bran's arc became the most boring thing I'd ever seen.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:14 am to Dire Wolf
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Season 5 has major deviations from the books which was bond to happen but D&D wasn't capable of handling it. It got ignored cause Hardhorn was bad arse. The sandsacks sucked
Yeah in hindsight we all probably should’ve seen what was ahead with that season (a lot of people did to be fair).
Season 6 seemed to turn it around a bit and set up for a very good final season, then ultimately what we got was the same level of “who gives a frick” that lead to the Dorne fight scenes
And at some point along the way between season 5 and season 7, they became more concerned with coming up with a shocking ending than they did making up a good one. And the only way to make it shocking (due to every theory being ironed out over the last 2 decades of the internets existence) the only way to do that was to betray every single character arc and motivation in the name of something surprising happening
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:16 am to TigerNutts
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Bran's arc became the most boring thing I'd ever seen.
Then they had the audacity to use it as the MAIN reason he gets selected as king
“Who’s had a better story than Bran?”— that’s when you think the ending wasn’t even poorly executed, but seemingly intentionally sabotaged by show runners who were tired of making the product and the expectations of the fans behind it.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:18 am to LSUBoo
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Her going mad queen is one of the few later plot points that made sense.
And yet they still found a way to make it happen in the most nonsensical way possible. Expert level shite writing
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:27 am to wildtigercat93
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And yet they still found a way to make it happen in the most nonsensical way possible. Expert level shite writing
It seemed obvious D&D wanted to turn the Mad Queen plot arc into this major third-act twist, but that completely misunderstands why George's twists work so well. Which is that they shock the audience, but their justification is established and believable in the context of the characters and scenario they happen in, often in a very complex and layered way, "Dany just went mad and into an uncontrollable rage" is about the laziest and most unearned twist in the series. It felt like a lot of the last seasons, that it was written with the destination in mind only and used whatever contrivances were necessary to get the plot there.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:27 am to CollegeFBRules
I almost forget about the steaming pile of shite ending to GOT and then someone brings it back up. 
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:29 pm to Bronc
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seemed obvious D&D wanted to turn the Mad Queen plot arc into this major third-act twist, but that completely misunderstands why George's twists work so well. Which is that they shock the audience, but their justification is established and believable in the context of the characters and scenario they happen in, often in a very complex and layered way, "Dany just went mad and into an uncontrollable rage" is about the laziest and most unearned twist in the series. It felt like a lot of the last seasons, that it was written with the destination in mind only and used whatever contrivances were necessary to get the plot there.
Yep. All of this is perfectly capsulated in that clip of D&D saying Dany (surrounded by an entire army and council), “just sort of forgot” about the Iron fleet which lead to dragon #1 dying
They stopped caring about how to make the story work within the confines of the world and what was built before them, and just went full speed ahead towards the ending. I’m not even sure they knew what ending they wanted, just that they wanted it to end. Whatever they had to write in between that didnt matter
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:43 pm to CollegeFBRules
The issue was the hurried ending and everything that occurred bc of it. If those 2 seasons took place over 4 seasons, some of the more egregious things don’t happen, or happen with enough backstory to make them plausible for the viewer
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:44 pm to wildtigercat93
My favorite scene when Bran is finally reunited with Sansa and Arya and tells
Then he’s the 3 eyed raven and Sansa and Arya have zero clue what the frick that means..
It felt exactly like the news persons response when the kid said “ I like turtles”
Then he’s the 3 eyed raven and Sansa and Arya have zero clue what the frick that means..
It felt exactly like the news persons response when the kid said “ I like turtles”
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:58 pm to wildtigercat93
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Yep. All of this is perfectly capsulated in that clip of D&D saying Dany (surrounded by an entire army and council), “just sort of forgot” about the Iron fleet which lead to dragon #1 dying
Also "it's in the genes" which was another post hoc rationalization they gave.
Just very lazy all around.
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