re: Were the last two seasons of Game of Thrones actually bad television?

The last 3 were

They were rushed. Needed at least a Full Season 8 plus another full season, at least, to wrap that story up properly

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No it wasn’t bad tv. It was rushed and fell off as many have said. But was it objectively bad TV? Not even close.

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I agree with this completely.

The last season was bad

Ok we spend time in Bravos with arya scrubbing floors and learning to fight blind.

We establish he one advantage over the Waif being that she can fight in the dark. Cut to her being a full on faceless man.

Her killing the night king was a terrible payoff of Jon’s arc.

Dany going mad Queen was rushed in a big was.

Jamie’s entire character arc was ruined.

Bran being king is maybe the dumbest fricking thing I’ve ever heard.

“Who has a better story than Bran”

They cut him out of an entire fricking season.

Not only do the lord accept Bran, but they let Sansa split off the north… so the Starks get to run everything.

Terrible

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We spend all that time WAITING for the army of the dead to get to the wall and when they finally cross the battle us over quickly and all it took was a dagger to the leader?

One of the biggest letdowns in tv history.

frick out of here

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This. It felt like the white walkers had two episodes dedicated to them and then poof. Over.

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How could he have been after killing Dany though? Regicide without punishment could not have been permitted.

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But Tyrion, the guy who convinces him to kill Dany, gets pretty much everything he wants just because of his little 5 minute motivational speech at the end? He was in prison, dragged out there, wasn't even supposed to be allowed to speak, and then all of a sudden he's talking and a few minutes later he has decided the fate of pretty much everybody and he's free to go. "Hey Jon, I know I was the one who plotted with you to kill Dany, but I'm good at talking so I'm going to send you off to the North and I'll become hand of the King because I'm some kind of brilliant mind." Gtfo dumb and dumber.

That's one of the 100 things wrong with the final episode, much less the final two seasons.

The episode where the gang goes beyond the wall and then Gendry runs back to tell Dany on Dragonstone even though he's never been north of the wall and wouldn't have any idea where he is just so she can fly in on a dragon and somehow get there in time to lose a dragon and save them even though she is at least half a continent away might be the single dumbest thing I have ever seen a TV show try to pass as a coherent plotline.

They essentially just started writing poor fan fiction to make casuals and "Youtube Reactors" happy.

"Hey you know how people like the Hound, and they like Tormund Giantsbane? Wouldn't it be wacky if we had them team up for an adventure beyond the wall?! It makes sense though because they need to kidnap a zombie and bring it back to Cersei... for reasons"

In comparison to the actual GoT franchise, they were awful.

If you hold them up against other fantasy/medieval shows, its still very good stuff.

I still absolutely hated it.

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I think my curiosity is just wondering what people wanted to see.

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How about some continuity. They built up this threat of the Night King and White Walkers for 6 years then rush through it. 2 episodes later they are lined up to battle Cersi and Kings Landing with what looks like full troops? Like no one besides the few known characters died? How many Dothraki and Unsullied were there? At the start of the Battle of Winterfell they charge at the White Walkers with weapons lit by the Red witch and looks like they were wiped out but then at the end looks like a full army. Cersi had to get mercenaries after one battle with a dragon but after a battle to near defeat with the existential threat that looms over the show for 6 years, barely a dent?

So many other logistical inconsistencies, the last 2 seasons were clearly rushed.

My favorite part of season 8 is D&D rushed the ending because they wanted to get to the Star Wars project they had been hired to write, then got fired from Star Wars because they screwed up GoT so badly.