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re: True Detective: S2E8 "Omega Station" (Spoilers)
Posted on 8/9/15 at 11:43 pm to DestrehanTiger
Posted on 8/9/15 at 11:43 pm to DestrehanTiger
the big shocker was Ray being the father of red headed angus.
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 11:47 pm to Wild Thang
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So the two women survive? frick this nonsense
A page ripped straight out of the GOT playbook, Scrong Womyn survive. The only problem is they telegraphed it way too early, and even shite on Farrell's corpse with the failed upload to his kid. What a frickin bummer.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 11:52 pm to DelU249
I thought episodes 1-3 were legit not very good, just dull. 4 had a few highlights. 5-7 were excellent and I enjoyed them thoroughly. Episode 8...it was good until everything just went to shite. Here's the thing...no one wants to be depressed. Ok, some characters die, but the good guys still win, you live with that. We leave with Ani telling a random guy (that we can assume is a reporter) about the story. Well seeing what we know in that town, do we really think he is ever going to be able to publish the story? I feel as though they will most definitely murder him. Soooo then what? The bad guys win with no consequences.
Also, Ray has 1 son who when he dies not even know if it is his. Then he knocked up Ani and that kid will never know him. Ray's character was depressing as shite. Frank starts being straight badass gangster, only to get fricked on by some Mexicans in a fricking desert....who, well I still have a question. Why were they ever so important? Doesn't make sense to me. I know they had an arrangement and Frank basically told them to piss off, but that's how Frank meets his death? By a lowly gang of Mexican punks?
Just wasn't a good ending to me...and apparently to most people. I love the crowd who support the show blindly and have to act like they're so intellectual. It had good moments throughout the season. If there were no season 1, ppl would have said it was a decent show. I personally still think it was decent, but it wasn't close to good. If season 2 came out first, I don't think there would be a follow up season.
Also, Ray has 1 son who when he dies not even know if it is his. Then he knocked up Ani and that kid will never know him. Ray's character was depressing as shite. Frank starts being straight badass gangster, only to get fricked on by some Mexicans in a fricking desert....who, well I still have a question. Why were they ever so important? Doesn't make sense to me. I know they had an arrangement and Frank basically told them to piss off, but that's how Frank meets his death? By a lowly gang of Mexican punks?
Just wasn't a good ending to me...and apparently to most people. I love the crowd who support the show blindly and have to act like they're so intellectual. It had good moments throughout the season. If there were no season 1, ppl would have said it was a decent show. I personally still think it was decent, but it wasn't close to good. If season 2 came out first, I don't think there would be a follow up season.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 11:56 pm to Rich Kotite
I can tell people were not invested in these characters at all by the visceral reactions in all the season 2 TD threads. 
The season 2 show was good. The season 1 writing and acting was great/good. Pretty tough for season 2 to live up to the season one hype. Season 3 will get here and MTB will not disappoint with the criticisms...
The season 2 show was good. The season 1 writing and acting was great/good. Pretty tough for season 2 to live up to the season one hype. Season 3 will get here and MTB will not disappoint with the criticisms...
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:01 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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I can tell people were not invested in these characters at all by the visceral reactions
I don't know why you're responding to me, this is the first thread i commented on. "I can tell people were not invested in these characters." How the frick do you know? You seem like a pretentious douchebag, thinking other peoples' opinions don't count because you're so smart.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:03 am to Rickety Cricket
quote:I thought it was good. I like that we got a conclusion in this season. A lot of people are mad about all of the people that died and that they were all men or whatever. I really don't care. I think Taylor K's character should have survived because he was completely innocent, but the other two I saw coming a mile away. They were on a course that would ultimately end with their deaths. They could have gotten out and left the country anytime, but they chose to see things through till the end. I really liked the paternity test results being shown at the end. I thought it was a nice way to finish CF's story.
These last 4 episodes were brilliant
As far as how it compared to last season? I thought last season was clearly better in a dialogue and story aspect, but I thought the ending of last season was atrocious. I remember watching the last episode and thinking "This is really how they're gonna end this thing?" "Two guys under the moonlight laughing with each other?" "No explanation of WTF just happened?"
This season we got closure. Although I think the character motivations were not very clear at times. They were there, but not always completely clear. Next season I hope Nic can do better establishing motivations because that's the difference in creating characters we can care about or not care about. We need to fully understand why they are doing what they're doing. The story was all over the place at times and the core structure of what was going on was not always clear. However, I do like that we actually got to see things play out in this one as apposed to last season.
Overall, I give this season a 7/10. Last season I gave an 8/10.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 2:12 am
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:05 am to Rich Kotite
Loved the finale. Loved the season.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:48 am to Marciano1
I thought they pulled it in nice at the end.
So now Velcoro has 2 kids. Frank died with 3.5 mill in diamonds in his pocket.
I give the series a B- as opposed to an A on season 1
So now Velcoro has 2 kids. Frank died with 3.5 mill in diamonds in his pocket.
I give the series a B- as opposed to an A on season 1
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:11 am to Marciano1
Decent end to season 2. Loved seeing Ray and Frank kill off the Russians and the black police chief get his at the train station.
Overall this season wasn't that great. I don't think I'll ever want to rewatch it.
Overall this season wasn't that great. I don't think I'll ever want to rewatch it.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:14 am to barry
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Why couldn't the voice message just go through. For fricks sake.
I guess that would not have been cutting-edge enough.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:28 am to Clockwatcher68
I enjoyed the finale, some of you might as well just type "I'm pissed I didnt get my feel good cookie cutter ending". Every time a movie/show ends like this a bunch of shallow viewers bitch about it. These are the kind of people who think Se7en is shite because the killer won.
My only real gripe is how Frank went out. I think him dying was the best way to end his story but that was a cheap way of doing it and it felt thrown together, as if they kne he should die but wrote themselves into a corner and had to find a way out. The random Mexicans with ten minutes of screen times who he made a necessity deal with? Really?
I would have liked to have seen him get killed saving Ray from his shite, thereby giving him back part of the life he helped steal (even though he had somewhat decent intentions) years earlier. On the other hand, I liked Ray's tragic ending a lot.
It could have been slightly better, and the season as a whole wasnt up to last year's standards, but I felt the ending was better than last year's. Last year had a crazy good build up and then the final couple of episodes really were a let down. This year never made you think it was something it wasnt, while last year tricked the viewer into thinking it was infinitely more than it was. Season 1 as a whole was great, but in the end it was a paper tiger masquerading as something much more.
My only real gripe is how Frank went out. I think him dying was the best way to end his story but that was a cheap way of doing it and it felt thrown together, as if they kne he should die but wrote themselves into a corner and had to find a way out. The random Mexicans with ten minutes of screen times who he made a necessity deal with? Really?
I would have liked to have seen him get killed saving Ray from his shite, thereby giving him back part of the life he helped steal (even though he had somewhat decent intentions) years earlier. On the other hand, I liked Ray's tragic ending a lot.
It could have been slightly better, and the season as a whole wasnt up to last year's standards, but I felt the ending was better than last year's. Last year had a crazy good build up and then the final couple of episodes really were a let down. This year never made you think it was something it wasnt, while last year tricked the viewer into thinking it was infinitely more than it was. Season 1 as a whole was great, but in the end it was a paper tiger masquerading as something much more.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 4:45 am to rebeloke
The ending was pretty bad. I have been really liking the show for the last few weeks, but I think they dropped the ball. I wasn't expecting a happy ending, but this was more of a stupid ending.
The airport scene was so bad with the broken recorder (of course that's what would be their freedom), Burris slithering away, and Ray getting away easy as well.
Then you have Frank driving around in his Audi by himself thinking everything is good with millions on him? He can plan out a swat attack and take out bad arse Russians but he doesn't have the sense to be more careful afterwards? And while you're taking off the suit you can fricking palm the diamonds, Frank. Get a ride or walk home naked but do it alive, dip shite.
Ray going to see his son was believable so you can't get too mad about it, but why drive to a place you have no chance at living with black ops on your tail? You want a message to your kid to get through, don't go off-roading, dumbass. How about taking his chance with the truth coming out pulling over to the cop on the freeway? Speaking of that, why the frick did Bezzerides wait until after Ray is dragged through the mud and shitbag becomes the mayor to release the story? Why not get that out as soon as she's safe in Venezuela? What were they doing for the last year or however long it's been?
The end just felt rushed and a bit forced. They didn't go more into the brother and sister, the Mexicans, even scarred up barkeep chick, yet they all played a pivotal role in the ending. The mayors son, Tony was a badass I guess but we didn't see any more of him since a dumb scene with his fake accent. Just too many things left unexplored. Oh well, it was still better than a lot of other stuff on TV, but the way these last few weeks were going this was a bit disappointing.
The airport scene was so bad with the broken recorder (of course that's what would be their freedom), Burris slithering away, and Ray getting away easy as well.
Then you have Frank driving around in his Audi by himself thinking everything is good with millions on him? He can plan out a swat attack and take out bad arse Russians but he doesn't have the sense to be more careful afterwards? And while you're taking off the suit you can fricking palm the diamonds, Frank. Get a ride or walk home naked but do it alive, dip shite.
Ray going to see his son was believable so you can't get too mad about it, but why drive to a place you have no chance at living with black ops on your tail? You want a message to your kid to get through, don't go off-roading, dumbass. How about taking his chance with the truth coming out pulling over to the cop on the freeway? Speaking of that, why the frick did Bezzerides wait until after Ray is dragged through the mud and shitbag becomes the mayor to release the story? Why not get that out as soon as she's safe in Venezuela? What were they doing for the last year or however long it's been?
The end just felt rushed and a bit forced. They didn't go more into the brother and sister, the Mexicans, even scarred up barkeep chick, yet they all played a pivotal role in the ending. The mayors son, Tony was a badass I guess but we didn't see any more of him since a dumb scene with his fake accent. Just too many things left unexplored. Oh well, it was still better than a lot of other stuff on TV, but the way these last few weeks were going this was a bit disappointing.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 4:48 am
Posted on 8/10/15 at 5:27 am to Sho Nuff
It may be harsh but I think it's just as well that the final voice mail to his son didn't go through. Because he was clearly spewing BS big time. I mean "if everybody was as strong as you ..."? I may have missed it but I didn't see any overwhelming great qualities from the kid.
And while we're on recording devices - are we to believe that the recording on the one in the station was rendered completely un-salvageable with today's technology because it was stepped on? Or that the bad guys got it (in which case why have it smashed) or that the police were just so incompetent that they didn't think to check it as evidence even though it was in the middle of a huge crime scene?
And while we're on recording devices - are we to believe that the recording on the one in the station was rendered completely un-salvageable with today's technology because it was stepped on? Or that the bad guys got it (in which case why have it smashed) or that the police were just so incompetent that they didn't think to check it as evidence even though it was in the middle of a huge crime scene?
Posted on 8/10/15 at 5:37 am to Methuselah
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It may be harsh but I think it's just as well that the final voice mail to his son didn't go through. Because he was clearly spewing BS big time. I mean "if everybody was as strong as you ..."? I may have missed it but I didn't see any overwhelming great qualities from the kid.
I was saying the same thing. The kid was a bump on a log, what strength is he talking about? It was cheesy. quote:
And while we're on recording devices - are we to believe that the recording on the one in the station was rendered completely un-salvageable with today's technology because it was stepped on? Or that the bad guys got it (in which case why have it smashed) or that the police were just so incompetent that they didn't think to check it as evidence even though it was in the middle of a huge crime scene?
Exactly what I was saying above. That was weak, of course the recorder hits the deck as Ray suddenly becomes incompetent and can't hold a gun and both go flying. And like you said, it was likely salvageable but nah, Ray and Ani don't check that and have to move to Venezuela, that was their only shot
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 5:40 am
Posted on 8/10/15 at 5:44 am to Sho Nuff
My main wish is that the ending would have been a montage of all the surviving dirty people getting arrested
I get that she turned over all the info to a reporter but I'd like to have been able to see for sure that they paid for their crimes
I get that she turned over all the info to a reporter but I'd like to have been able to see for sure that they paid for their crimes
Posted on 8/10/15 at 6:24 am to LSUButt
quote:If season 2 were first, we wouldn't have the great season 1 to compare it to, which means a lot of people would have probably liked it more. Then given the cast they put together, ratings would have been solid. I can't see any plausible scenario where this as season 1 would have been a series ender.
I personally still think it was decent, but it wasn't close to good. If season 2 came out first, I don't think there would be a follow up season
Posted on 8/10/15 at 7:06 am to shel311
Elements of "Heat" and "True Romance" in that finale.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 7:21 am to navy
so I dont know if everyone caught this last night since a lot of people were confused as to why the Mexicans had it out for Frank so much or where they came from
but you can see the Mexican gang leader in the pic to the left
I know I missed it last night
but you can see the Mexican gang leader in the pic to the left
I know I missed it last night
Posted on 8/10/15 at 7:29 am to Sho Nuff
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The ending was pretty bad
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Then you have Frank driving around in his Audi by himself thinking everything is good with millions on him?
The moment they started playing up Frank's devotion to his wife and her likewise feelings for him you just knew he was a dead man. The sappy conversation about meeting in Venezuela sealed the deal. That’s just Hollywood writing 101. He never had a chance.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 7:43 am to Salmon
Did not notice that. However, that brings up more questions. Who exactly were they? How long had they been working for Tony? Were they working for him?
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