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Posted on 8/10/15 at 7:56 am to LSUButt
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Who exactly were they?
a Mexican gang...?
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How long had they been working for Tony?
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Were they working for him?
I think that is pretty obvious. Seems like they were the ones that were taking over the drug running through the clubs and casino now.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:08 am to Salmon
But that's my point...we know very little about them. Very little. And they obviously had a strong control somewhere in the city with powerful ties
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:16 am to LSUButt
The Mexicans appeared to be sincerely upset with the burning of the club and their loss of income. Seemed like they were satisfied with the million as fair compensation.
The confrontation over the suit seemed contrived.
The confrontation over the suit seemed contrived.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:18 am to LSUButt
Did we really need to know more about them?
We know they were a Mexican gang working for the Mayors son and they were taking over the drug running in Vinci.
They were just part of the cog, just like the real estate guy, the Russians, the mayor, the police chief, etc.
We know they were a Mexican gang working for the Mayors son and they were taking over the drug running in Vinci.
They were just part of the cog, just like the real estate guy, the Russians, the mayor, the police chief, etc.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:20 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:Yea, I still don't get why VV did what he did. Did he just give up at that point or something when he realized he'd lose the diamonds?
The Mexicans appeared to be sincerely upset with the burning of the club and their loss of income. Seemed like they were satisfied with the million as fair compensation.
The confrontation over the suit seemed contrived.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:23 am to LSUButt
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The bad guys win with no consequences
This happens more than we care to admit....maybe not to this scale....but in real life, the 'bad guys' win all the time.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:24 am to shel311
Did y'all not see the fricking grave? Who do y'all think the grave was for? 
VV knew he was dead and he wasn't going to go out like that, as he said earlier in the episode. He had too much pride to die without his clothes.
VV knew he was dead and he wasn't going to go out like that, as he said earlier in the episode. He had too much pride to die without his clothes.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:26 am to shel311
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why VV did what he did. Did he just give up at that point or something when he realized he'd lose the diamonds?
That's certainly a valid explantion. However the entire series presented him as the ultimate pragmatist. He had to know he wasn't going to win that fight in the desert. His wife was waiting for him. Frank wouldn't have just tossed his life away.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:29 am to Erin Go Bragh
Is it understood that the Armenians sold Frank out to the Mexicans?
If that is the case, makes the kidnapping scene more believable.
Still have to think Frank would have been smarter about the exchange with the Armenians. Or just not paid them at all.
If that is the case, makes the kidnapping scene more believable.
Still have to think Frank would have been smarter about the exchange with the Armenians. Or just not paid them at all.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:29 am to AUjim
quote:My all time favorite movie is Usual Suspects, and one of the reasons is because the good guys don't win like they always do in virtually every movie/show.
This happens more than we care to admit....maybe not to this scale....but in real life, the 'bad guys' win all the time.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:33 am to STLhog
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Is it understood that the Armenians sold Frank out to the Mexicans?
The look between the two as Frank drove away could be interpreted that way. Unless the Mexicans were tailing him I find it hard to believe they just stumbled upon him as he was driving.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:45 am to Erin Go Bragh
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The look between the two as Frank drove away could be interpreted that way. Unless the Mexicans were tailing him I find it hard to believe they just stumbled upon him as he was driving.
Well based on the other unbelievable BS that happened in the show, it would't surprise me.
Ray not being able to draw his gun/bumbling with the video recorder in the heat of the moment and then suddenly turning into an Ace Assasin taking out 3 special ops guys?
Whatever. That ending sucked arse.
Too many characters. That's the bottom line.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:45 am to Erin Go Bragh
This entire season boils down to just a bunch of dead assholes.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:50 am to Trout Bandit
I believe the Armanians sold out Frank.
The two guys gave each other that obilagtory soap opera stare when Frank left..
The two guys gave each other that obilagtory soap opera stare when Frank left..
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:52 am to LSUButt
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Who exactly were they?
I don't believe that it was the Mexican gang that killed Frank. It was the Mayor's son. The picture above is him becoming the new mayor.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:55 am to Jack Bauer7
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I believe the Armanians sold out Frank. The two guys gave each other that obilagtory soap opera stare when
Yeah I thought this was a given.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:00 am to Soul Gleaux
Frank had to know better.
Why would he even pay the Armenians at that point. I know he's an "honorable" gangster but with the passing of the torch, he would know they would sell him out.
Why would he even pay the Armenians at that point. I know he's an "honorable" gangster but with the passing of the torch, he would know they would sell him out.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:01 am to Soul Gleaux
It was a given for sure...But why did they sell him out?
I thought Frank was very generous to them
I thought Frank was very generous to them
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:01 am to ngremi1
The scene with Frank in the desert was a microcosm of the entire season 2. Events happen just to have events happen.
They may have taken Frank out there to kill him but I am convinced they were going to leave him alive after taking his money. Otherwise why walk back to their vehicles as if they were leaving? Who were they trying to fool? If they were going to kill Frank after they took his money it would have been a straight forward shot to the head and be done with him. They were leaving. Frank believed they were leaving.
With regards to a grave I have to be honest I watch shows like this in the most superficial way. I didn't notice a grave. But I'll accept there was a grave at the site. Why go through the effort of digging a grave for Frank and then leave him on the ground after fatally stabbing him?
They may have taken Frank out there to kill him but I am convinced they were going to leave him alive after taking his money. Otherwise why walk back to their vehicles as if they were leaving? Who were they trying to fool? If they were going to kill Frank after they took his money it would have been a straight forward shot to the head and be done with him. They were leaving. Frank believed they were leaving.
With regards to a grave I have to be honest I watch shows like this in the most superficial way. I didn't notice a grave. But I'll accept there was a grave at the site. Why go through the effort of digging a grave for Frank and then leave him on the ground after fatally stabbing him?
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