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re: True Detective S1E7 "After You've Gone"

Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:00 pm to
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Season 2 will pick up with the two investigators (who think Rust is guilty) trying to solve who killed Rust and Marty. In the process, they will uncover Rust's storage shed and reopen the old case. Season 2 will show us how deep the rabbit hole really gets.

While I can't discount that NP may revisit at some point in the future if it suits him, this will not be season two. True Detective should be viewed as a series of mini-series with no connections between cases. This has been the stated intent.
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:06 pm to
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There's no doubt that the writers including Marty's 10-pointer in the script is not a coincidence but it can also turn out to be extraneous character development designed to keep viewers guessing. In other words, some of this viewer analysis/conjecture is simply analysts reading too much into the "clues".


Stories have to be written for more than just the casual fan now. Even though the majority of tv viewers like to have everything spoon fed and wrapped up with a nice little bow every week, another viewing segment will over analyze ever scene and word from a story.

The thing that interests me most (out of 100 other TD back stories) is Audrey's story. It's been obvious for weeks that she has all the signs of having been molested as a young girl, but does that come into play with Maggie's parents or not. Are either of them related to the Tuttle family, etc. It may be nothing, but I didn't care about that angle until this last episode when we are told that she has had a lot of issues over the years.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:09 pm to
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True Detective should be viewed as a series of mini-series with no connections between cases


correct

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This has been the stated intent.


correct

HBO has not selected a writer nor a director for the next phase of the project, NickP has to submit his concept and scripts for a greenlight
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 3:41 pm
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13862 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 2:01 pm to
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It's been obvious for weeks that she has all the signs of having been molested as a young girl, but does that come into play with Maggie's parents or not. Are either of them related to the Tuttle family, etc. It may be nothing, but I didn't care about that angle until this last episode when we are told that she has had a lot of issues over the years.


Could Marty be such a bad father that he doesn't remember his kid going to one of Tuttle's schools? Seems that all of the missing children have never been found and only the school-children survive the abuse. Is there any evidence that the "Carcosans" do this stuff to their own families? It seems that they are groomed to join it, but not actually abused... Or are women so disrespected that they would do this to their own female family members?

If you (not poster to whom I am responding, just "you" in general) believe that Maggie's parents or Maggie are involved, then I think your subsequent theory should be that Audrey is now part of the conspiracy(successful painter, using art to pass on the message, powerful people propelling her career, etc.) and not a victim of it...

Another, separate, point to consider is that the victims are not all girls, but the two victims who have been publicly displayed have been female.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 2:14 pm to
I read on Reddit the bar is in Bayou Gauche:

Street View Pic of Bar
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
5921 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 2:56 pm to
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There's no doubt that the writers including Marty's 10-pointer in the script is not a coincidence


Geez yall the point is that the general evil of existence is part of us all. It may be that Audrey has been abused; it may simply be that Audrey is simply another victim of the pervasive failures of men that is another of the show's themes.

Everything is not either a "clue" that plays into "the plot" or a "red herring". Some things are just markers that tie themes together.

This is understanding fiction 101. And no Decatur Marty is not the killer...christ almighty!
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 2:58 pm to
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It seems that they are groomed to join it, but not actually abused...


The lawnmower man was burned by his father.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13862 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:01 pm to
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The lawnmower man was burned by his father.


Touché. but I was referring to the 5-man ritual shite... and now he is a part of it, so maybe it was part of the grooming process.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66093 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:21 pm to
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I read on Reddit the bar is in Bayou Gauche:

Street View Pic of Bar


Fisherman's Wharf. stopped in there more times than I can remember after killing the redfish in Salvador.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32733 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:26 pm to
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Could Marty be such a bad father that he doesn't remember his kid going to one of Tuttle's schools?


I think he would remember by now. If they did, question is whether he decides to tell Rust or Suck & frick.

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Is there any evidence that the "Carcosans" do this stuff to their own families? It seems that they are groomed to join it, but not actually abused... Or are women so disrespected that they would do this to their own female family members?


I think it's very possible knowing that Dora Lange was involved in Courir de Mardi Gras activity as a young child (mantle picture) and that her father was likely involved. Mother has to ask Rust and Marty why a father would not bath his own child. Anyone think her father's truck accident was really an accident?

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then I think your subsequent theory should be that Audrey is now part of the conspiracy(successful painter, using art to pass on the message, powerful people propelling her career, etc.) and not a victim of it...


Was Maggie a painter? Did Audrey pick that up from her? Lots of paintings of flowers in their old house.

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but the two victims who have been publicly displayed have been female.


What gets me is that out of all of the alleged victims/missing persons, only two have been publicly displayed over the years (that we know of).
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 3:27 pm
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13862 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:35 pm to
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Mother has to ask Rust and Marty why a father would not bath his own child


has been nagging me since it was spoken. So many possible explanations... none pleasant.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32733 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:39 pm to
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So many possible explanations... none pleasant.


I think all of the major clues are susceptible to more than one explanation at the very least. That's how they're hiding it. Also, can give rise to tunnel vision, which I do realize is possible in my case.
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2586 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 4:06 pm to
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I don't see how they wrap up everything in a single one hour episode. This series deserves better than that.
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Come on man, have they not delivered so far? Always somebody to whine

Not whining at all. I don't see how you can wrap up all the loose ends in an hour. Two hour finale? Prime. I love the show. I just don't want it to end with tons of question marks.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Member since Jan 2004
31392 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 4:38 pm to
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I love the show. I just don't want it to end with tons of question marks.

I'm very Ok with some answered questions.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13862 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 4:42 pm to
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I'm very Ok with some answered questions.


me too.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31392 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 4:44 pm to
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Geez yall the point is that the general evil of existence is part of us all. It may be that Audrey has been abused; it may simply be that Audrey is simply another victim of the pervasive failures of men that is another of the show's themes.

or that she has some mental disorder. Remember when Maggie mentioned Audrey didn't take her meds? Audrey could be Bi-Polar. It really could be that simple and that little reference IMO has closed Audrey's story. We will not hear about Audrey again.
Posted by Contender54
the Enn Oh
Member since Jan 2009
1123 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:06 pm to
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I read on Reddit the bar is in Bayou Gauche:

Street View Pic of Bar


Thanks. It was bugging me
Posted by El Eh Shu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
939 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 9:37 am to
So many theories after each episode, here are the ones I remember...

Rust is the killer
Marty is the killer
Marty's father in law is involved
Maggie is involved
Billy Ray is the killer
Audrey is a victim
Clarke Peters (black preacher) is someone, too big for tiny role
Marty and Rust are the same person
Papania and Gilbough are the same person
Preacher Joel Theriot is the killer (his name!!!)
Rust is FBI
Rust and Marty met before the interviews

The best thing was the list of "What we know" list from IMDB after the first two episodes.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21591 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 9:45 am to
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I read on Reddit the bar is in Bayou Gauche:

Street View Pic of Bar



Thanks. It was bugging me




Has anyone figured out where the ending shot was? (That cemetery on the bayou)
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13862 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 10:01 am to
The pacing of this thread is disappointing. It will never be wrapped up prior to the finale.
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