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re: True Detective S1E7 "After You've Gone"

Posted on 3/3/14 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 11:10 pm to
She photo shopped an aged Rust into a picture so she could fantasize they were happily ever after.
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:42 am to
I took Marty's visit to thank Maggie as him knowing that there's a good chance he won't make it out alive.

The heartbreaking scenes of both Hart and Cohle living their lives alone without anyone or anything of meaning told me that they've mutually decided that they're going to finish this; and it's going to involve having to do things that will push them past the point of no return.

This was maybe my favorite episode of the season. So powerful.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:51 am to
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here is the shot of the photo of Maggie and her new husband.



Look at the swamp and trees in the background....

:spookywhispervoice: carcosa
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:10 am to
notice her new husband is hugging from behind. this cannot be a coincidence
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:15 am to
You think he's going for the cake hole?

Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:17 am to
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cake hole


a little IMDB research tells us his name is Bartholumule Rickey Chavis Ledoux Childress. This can only mean one thing
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:20 am to
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:11 am to
The finale definitely has a Chinatown feel to it. I'm expecting for some people to get fricked up but, ultimately, nothing significant can be done to bring justice or change the outcome. Even if lawn mower man is taken out, someone from the Tuttle clan fills his place and the beat goes on unimpeded. I also like to think that the lasting image will be of Audrey being just another cog in this long line of ritualistic sacrifice (whether Marty will be alive or not to rue such a scene, I can't tell).

ETA: Audrey has been entirely too important/noticed/discussed amongst the characters in this season for her to not play some larger role in all of this.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 11:13 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:17 am to
Rewatched E7 last night and noted that Marty told Rust that Geraci was the Vermilion Parish deputy who took the original complaint in the Marie Fontenot case. The actual report that we can see in E1 though lists Deputy Arceneaux as taking the original complaint (it still lists Childress as the investigator). This is the second time that I can tell Marty has told Rust info that is not included in a police report (the first being that Marty told Rust that Ledoux did 2 years for the 6 drug charges - actual report said he only did 8 months).

Could this be meaningful? Continuity errors maybe?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:20 am to
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Continuity errors maybe?


i think this answers much of your "marty" theory, honestly

as this season has unfolded, it has become clear that the "little clues" people have seen haven't mattered and were either errors or unintentional
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:33 am to
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as this season has unfolded, it has become clear that the "little clues" people have seen haven't mattered and were either errors or unintentional


To me, it's always seemed as though the little clues DO matter considering NP modeled this project after a police procedural novel and that he spent a lot of time making interconnections.

quote:

Where did True Detective start for you? What was the first germ of the idea?

Probably May or June of 2010, when I was working on what I wanted my next novel to be. I wanted it to be really big. I was going to use certain conventions of the procedural crime novel—and I don’t say those things with any kind of haughtiness. I love these conventions. I love them. I love a good plot. But I wanted to use them to try to write a literary police novel that also kind of encapsulated 17 years in the life of South Louisiana.


quote:

I just don’t take anything for granted. I made True Detective like it was going to be the only thing I ever made for television. So put in everything and the kitchen sink. Everything. You have to be able to enjoy it as a rollicking story with compelling, authentic characters, but if you can enjoy it on that level, it can just keep going. There are multiple associations, multiple layers. It was madness. It was just crazy. I’d work for 48 hours at time and then I’d sleep for 20 hours.


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He's lead me to believe the little clues matter.

Maybe some of the "little clues" will ultimately prove to be fluff. I guess we'll see.

I still don't see why they'd have Marty say he recently killed a 10-pointer and not have the audience see that as a clue. Why even mention that? (btw that 10-pointer is NOT mounted in Marty's house from what I saw - I looked )
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 11:37 am
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:34 am to
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Could this be meaningful?


No. I would assume a slew of interns put together all of the old files and NP prob did not review/revise all of them because he underestimated the tardation of america
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32733 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:39 am to
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I would assume a slew of interns put together all of the old files and NP prob did not review/revise all of them because he underestimated the tardation of america


Perhaps. We'll find out in a week certainly (or maybe not certainly if you consider Rust's statement that "Nothing is ever solved"). Wait and see.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:40 am to
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or maybe not certainly if you consider Rust's statement that "Nothing is ever solved


already planning for your crawfish. Brilliant.

:slowclap:

:imeantslowasinretarded:
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32733 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:42 am to
Theories, man. Just theories.

And I'd have you know I now have Errol listed above Marty as a person of interest in the murder of Dora Lange. Still haven't taken Marty off of the board yet though.

I'm having a hard time believing that Errol could/would set up the crime scene the way it was dressed up and not leave traces, fingerprints or footprints and I assume that if he did actually kill Dora Lange that he had help with the body. The Geraci angle is interesting here. He might have the know-how to set up the crime scene without leaving a trace. (He also knows the Erath area very well as it was his former beat) This is why I've always considered that the killer may have had a law enforcement background.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:43 am to
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I still don't see why they'd have Marty say he recently killed a 10-pointer and not have the audience see that as a clue. Why even mention that?


I have always found it a bit amusing when analysts get pissed about seemingly dead end clues in shows/movies. LOST is probably the ultimate example. There's no doubt that the writers including Marty's 10-pointer in the script is not a coincidence but it can also turn out to be extraneous character development designed to keep viewers guessing. In other words, some of this viewer analysis/conjecture is simply analysts reading too much into the "clues".
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:46 pm to
I think Marty and Rust will be killed in the season finale and the crime won't be solved. Season 2 will pick up with the two investigators (who think Rust is guilty) trying to solve who killed Rust and Marty. In the process, they will uncover Rust's storage shed and reopen the old case. Season 2 will show us how deep the rabbit hole really gets.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:57 pm to
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There's no doubt that the writers including Marty's 10-pointer in the script is not a coincidence but it can also turn out to be extraneous character development designed to keep viewers guessing. In other words, some of this viewer analysis/conjecture is simply analysts reading too much into the "clues".


Agreed. If anything, it may have just been intended to show Marty's basic insecurity around Rust.

Rust asks him if he ever hunted so Marty goes into bro mode and bullshits about his hunting prowess.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:58 pm to
don't think
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