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re: True Detective S1E5 "The Secret Fate of All Life"

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Posted by TigerRad
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:58 pm to
siap, but here is good short interview with NP about how the show came to be

LINK
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

yone call the number on the billboard of the missing child?

I tried when they first showed it but it said it couldn't be dialed from a cell phone.



You have to use the pay phone at the old gas station in the spill way
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:58 pm to
This thread has been fun reading.

I honestly hope everybody is wrong and we all get a great ending that NOBODY saw coming.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
95033 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:01 pm to
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Anyone call the number on the billboard of the missing child?

I tried when they first showed it but it said it couldn't be dialed from a cell phone.



I actually thought it was that sign heading into Beaumont that's been up since 95
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:02 pm to
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I actually thought it was that sign heading into Beaumont that's been up since 95



I thought the same thing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477267 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:02 pm to
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What would have been an unsafe ending? Sopranos style?




****SPOILERS****











yeah not saying anything is one way to do it...or pulling a whacky/unexpected ending...or one that frustrating

walt got to wrap up basically everything, especially re: redemption. he saves jesse and mends that to a bit. his final plan was exceptionally complex and one finally goes off without a hitch. nothing crazy happens and it's pretty textbook. then he dies after all of this good shite happening.

and what was the response? theories like he dies in the car and the rest is a dream. why? walt trying to gain redemption and failing is more interesting, but less fulfilling.

i have no problem with BB. i'd imagine the people who DO are engaging in exactly what les is commenting on
























**** END SPOILERS*****








This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 3:03 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:02 pm to
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SFP what is your handle on Reddit? I

i think slowflowpro, but i never post there. i hate reddit. upvote/downvote schemes just lead to groupthink
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
95033 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:05 pm to
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the rural badlands of Louisiana
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:07 pm to
Some insight into potential storylines and setting for Season 2 (assuming it's greenlit):

LINK

Sounds like really nothing is decided other than writer Nic Pizzolatto being back, which is good news.

quote:

Via Deadline, the pay-cable giant has signed an overall two-year deal with creator and novelist Nic Pizzolatto, who has already begun working on a potential second season of ‘True Detective,’ prepping a draft to present to HBO execs.


quote:

Pizzolatto put forth several ideas during the recent TCA press tour:

There could be a season that’s much more of a widespread conspiracy thriller, a season that’s a small-town murder mystery, a season where nobody is murdered and it’s a master criminal versus a rogue detective or something. Even the title, True Detective, is meant to be, of course, purposefully somewhat generic – the word “true” can also mean honorable and authentic and things like that. So as long as there is some crime in there, I think the series format can approach it.


Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9227 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:20 pm to
I love that TD will be an anthology series. We get to enjoy great writing/acting/stories and get some closure from a series (for once).
Posted by mouton
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:20 pm to
Not sure if this has been discussed, but how did Charlie Lange know about the antlers?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32765 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:24 pm to
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and reggie ledoux's paradise of pain?


I don't know the extent of Ledoux's knowledge or involvement in anything. Looked like he didn't know anything about the antler crown. I really don't how much Marty knew about Ledoux before all this, whether he always planned to pin it on him or that it happened more by circumstance. But it would be mighty convenient for Marty just to off Ledoux and pin it on him rather than have Ledoux deny everything.

But I do think we know that Detectives Gilbough and Papania think that the case might have been steered toward Ledoux, but they blame it on Rust...at least that is what they are telling Marty.

What info do you think they are trying to elicit from Marty?

Another question should be asked - if the detectives are going to question at least two people, at least one of whom they think might be a suspect, who are they going to want to question last? I think they last question the person they think has the highest likelihood of being their suspect, so they have the benefit of getting as much info from everyone else first.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 3:29 pm
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:25 pm to
what will it take to put the marty is the killer theory to rest?

he tailed the fricking dude and led rust right to reggie ledoux's camp and also got the intel from ledoux's ka as to how the biker gang was connected and passed this on to rust. did he magically know that rust was this crazy badass who would go through the ghetto robbery to make the pieces fall into place.

i really feel like Lost ruined TV for alot of people as they are now compelled to over analyze the shite out of a story to find symbols and a deeper meaning.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29287 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:25 pm to
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Not sure if this has been discussed, but how did Charlie Lange know about the antlers?


SPOILERS











Marty had him over for dinner (red shirt night...not blue) and told him then to prep him.
Posted by Dav
Dhan
Member since Feb 2010
8156 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:25 pm to
Will this be the first 100 page episode thread in M/TV history? Only Ozymandias was higher believe.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:26 pm to
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i think slowflowpro, but i never post there. i hate reddit. upvote/downvote schemes just lead to groupthink


R/politics is garbage because of this. Anything not spit out from think progress will get downvoted to hell.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40371 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

he tailed the fricking dude and led rust right to reggie ledoux's camp and also got the intel from ledoux's ka as to how the biker gang was connected and passed this on to rust. did he magically know that rust was this crazy badass who would go through the ghetto robbery to make the pieces fall into place.


Then he blasted ledoux in the face so no one can ask questions.

That does nothing to dismiss Marty if anything it makes him more guilty. I don't agree with that theory but that was stupid reasoning
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:31 pm to
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I don't know the extent of Ledoux's knowledge or involvement in anything. Looked like he didn't know anything about the antler crown. I really don't how much Marty knew about Ledoux before all this, whether he always planned to pin it on him or that it happened more by circumstance. But it would be mighty convenient for Marty just to off Ledoux and pin it on him rather than have Ledoux deny everything.

but how, at the least, did he get all of those devil catchers on that property? was the initial use of devil catchers a ploy he concocted knowing that he could eventually pin this all on ledoux, somehow (if he ever found him). but that begs the question of how marty would even know ledoux would have those things on his property, considering he didn't know who the hell ledoux was (or how to find him).

quote:

What info do you think they are trying to elicit from Marty?

i think they know marty and rust lied about how they found ledoux ad a minimum, which means the entire story is suspect

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477267 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:33 pm to
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did he magically know that rust was this crazy badass who would go through the ghetto robbery to make the pieces fall into place.

ignoring all the risk he was taking with this, how did he know which biker gang rust had a connection with in order for it to lead back to an avenue for rust to get close to ledoux? this is all ignoring how he knew ledoux, or what ledoux did, or who he sold to.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:33 pm to
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how did Charlie Lange know about the antlers?


watch it again. Charlie did not mention Antlers
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