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re: True Detective S1E5 "The Secret Fate of All Life"

Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:30 pm to
Yea I just think he is working alone.

If he was working for the Feds i don't think it would be a huge secret to the state police. He certainly wouldn't be showing up to crime scenes if he was supposed to be trying to trick someone that he was undercover
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:31 pm to
and i know that reality is detested with regards to this show, but the FBI wouldn't send a guy to work UC and have him be an oddball weirdo with a redacted file from his "history" in TX
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:31 pm to
It looks like Grantland took Greenwald off the case:

LINK
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:33 pm to
the man on the lawnmower has scars on his face if you study the pictures. hard to make out very well with his beard but he has scars across both cheeks.

Could also be someone who has scars on his body and we haven't seen them yet
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:34 pm to
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yeah I think he is working alone


I don't…I think Marty has been secretly working with him…bankrolling him and providing support behind the scenes. the way he told the detectives he hadn't spoken to Rust in 10 years seemed fishy
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

One of the biggest issues that plagued Twin Peaks, Lost, and The X-Files was that they ran for multiple seasons. They all set up their mythologies and mysteries to pay off big, and the longer they ran the larger that payoff was expected to be. Twin Peaks fumbled in its second season after solving the initial mystery. Lost gave viewers too many red herrings, then incited their wrath with a disappointingly magical ending. By the time The X-Files fully explained its unbelievably complicated mythology, the audience was no longer as rapt as they’d once been. Maybe just answering the questions at all is bound to be disappointing. When the answers do come, the pleasure of wondering what they will be comes to a halt. And all those hours spent keeping track of fictional numbers, events, and characters start to feel like a fever dream.

this is a statement that i agree with in general with regards to American TV shows. they almost always go on way too long

i like the 1-season format. almost any show can wrap up in 2-3 seasons, imho
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:35 pm to
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and i know that reality is detested with regards to this show, but the FBI wouldn't send a guy to work UC and have him be an oddball weirdo with a redacted file from his "history" in TX


You'd be surprised.
Posted by Lunchbox48
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:39 pm to
I listen every week to their podcast, but I really don't understand what Greenwald hated about this show. As in he couldn't articulate past "I don't like cop shows, so I knew going in I hate this one."

He sounded like a kid having to do a book report.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:39 pm to
Yeah, me too.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:39 pm to
I think Marty may be involved to. I just meant independently from any agency..
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

this is a statement that i agree with in general with regards to American TV shows. they almost always go on way too long


Amen.

The Brits cut 'em off after a season or two.

Perfect synopsys as a fan of both LOST and X-Files. X-

Files took forever to pay off and after a decade I just didn't care anymore.

LOST promised scientific or psuedo-scientific explanations for eveything but had no plan to tie it all back together and punted with a metaphysical "magic" ending instead.
Posted by BlackenedOut
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:42 pm to
Greenwald's main flaw is he writes about plays and makes up his mind about them after Act I. He does the same thing with Boardwalk Empire every year.

"I've seen the first two episodes of this season of Boardwalk Empire, and it is boring and the show doesn't go anywhere."
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:42 pm to
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You'd be surprised.


Yep. The FBI and CIA routinely contract total burnouts and weird criminal freaks. If you read the history it's pretty clear that a lot of the "people" who get their hands dirty on behalf of three-letter govt orgs are mentally defective in some way. Look at Lee Harvey Oswald.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:49 pm to
It seems to me that he was turned off in the beginning by Rust's so-called "nihilistic rambles." I think a lot of people feel like Rust sounds like a whiny teenager. I can understand why, but of course I disagree.
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
7496 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:50 pm to
I feel it's worth noting and commending the fact that this single episode thread is twice as long as the Walking Dead's recent episode thread.

Bravo, intelligent MTV contributors, bravo.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:51 pm to
Greenwald has said:
I dont like serial killer shows.
I dont like how the shows portrays women. (A common complaint of his, he loves complaining about how women and blacks are portrayed in tv and film)
He doesnt agree with the worldview of the showrunner which is something people say when they dont have much else to say.

Basically stick up his arse.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:52 pm to
HOW DID SOMEBODY CLAIM I WAS SAYING THAT shite!?!?!?!
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
132412 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:59 pm to
I was joking. But youd better eat crow if the ending is good. And a big reveal is not necessarily a copout if done right imo. Stop fixating on that.


Bitch.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:01 pm to
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so why is this rich and powerful cult hanging out with lowlifes like reggie ledoux and that other whack job from prison. cant they call heisenberg to get their meth?

Because homicidal LSD/meth cooks aren't a dime a dozen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Bitch

et tu, Jesse?
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