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re: True Detective S1E5 "The Secret Fate of All Life"

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Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:02 pm to
Meth is much, much easier to create than LSD
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:02 pm to
I can't keep up with this thread, but my observations:

1. Re Ginger. He is dead, and whoever said Cohle lied to Marty about him is wrong. Rust did not say he was alive and taped up in a ditch. Just that he was taped up in a ditch.

2. If Rust Cohle is an anagram for "horse cult". Rustin Cohle is an anagram for "in horse cult". I don't think that means a fricking thing.

3. Rust dumped Dr. Lady to protect her. Watching them on the couch, it seemed as thou he was very bored and that might be the cause of their split. However, I think now he was being contemplative (not bored) and he said in the interview (seemingly genuinely) that he almost married her. If this was after the prisoner offed himself (I forget timing) then I'm convinced he split it to protect her. Cue the "I have her cause" quote. He fell on the sword to protect her.

4. I think the kids crown in the tree was reminiscent of the devil catcher but also with the obvious crown symbolism. There is a shitload of symbolism in this show. Not every occasion of symbolism is necessarily a clue. However, I do believe she has been exposed to the cult shite since an early age. Her development is not by accident.

5. Rust is trolling the cops. Nothing in the storage container but old clothes IMO. If he's not trolling them, he may be trying to lead them to the truth since he knows it won't be trusted coming from him. Someone earlier posted about Rust sacrificing himself. I won't be surprised if he falls on the sword in such a way that it brings down the people really responsible.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:03 pm to
Big reveals def aren't always cop-outs. Look at Usual Suspects. I think that movie is as soft as a 30 year-old pier in the middle and is TOTALLY redeemed by the big reveal.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:04 pm to
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2. If Rust Cohle is an anagram for "horse cult". Rustin Cohle is an anagram for "in horse cult". I don't think that means a fricking thing.


Yeah, this is one of the crackiest of the crackpot theories in here.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:04 pm to
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Meth is much, much easier to create than LSD

I know. That's why I said they aren't a dime a dozen.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:05 pm to
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I think that movie is as soft as a 30 year-old pier in the middle and is TOTALLY redeemed by the big reveal.

the ending ruins the movie and makes it a complete waste of time, imho
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:05 pm to
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. If Rust Cohle is an anagram for "horse cult". Rustin Cohle is an anagram for "in horse cult". I don't think that means a fricking thing.



Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:05 pm to
Whoa, well thats, like, your opinion, man.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:06 pm to
karma and i once went to war over that
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:08 pm to
I kinda agree with SFP about Usual Suspects...
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:09 pm to
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I'm starting to think the yellow king may have some relation to Les Miles.

He's always come off as a satanic cultist type


Open handed clap = 10 point antlers
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:11 pm to
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Look at Usual Suspects. I think that movie is as soft as a 30 year-old pier in the middle and is TOTALLY redeemed by the big reveal.

stupid ending which made the whole movie worthless.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:13 pm to
No way, man!

I'd agree if a TV show had that sort of ending (and Lost kinda did) because of the time invested. But a movie is different. 2 hours is a small price to pay for the pleasure of the mind-f that Usual Suspects delivered.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:14 pm to
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Posted by Cosmo I was joking. But youd better eat crow if the ending is good. And a big reveal is not necessarily a copout if done right imo. Stop fixating on that. Bitch.


I agree, what's wrong with a big reveal if done right. Usual Suspects and 6th sense both had huge reveals and they are widely loved films. If we get 6th sense and not The Village I'll be ok with that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:15 pm to
yeah but that "mindfrick" boils down to "criminals/evil people lie"

WHOA! HOLY shite!

the other 2 hours turns out to be pointless b/c it wasn't real. this relates back to TD b/c this is why i've warned of people getting too intoxicated theorizing about the "false narrative" angle. other than the fact hat it wouldn't make sense, it could go all usual suspects
Posted by ffishstik
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:15 pm to
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Rust, on the other hand, gets close to darkness so he can keep it out. Paradoxically, he wants to protect the world from truth. Or at least he wants to make a sad, dissatisfying, and perhaps evil world as decent as possible. This is the story he tells himself to get some measure of catharsis.



Exactly. There are some similarities to Morgan Freeman's character in Seven, as well as a few similarities between Brad Pitt's character and Marty.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:15 pm to
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10 point antlers


Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31662 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:17 pm to
You and your stupid fricking easter eggs. Did you just learn that term?

It's not interesting or witty in the least. If you have theories, then share them. Otherwise you come off as a pretentious attention whore.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:18 pm to
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I'd agree if a TV show had that sort of ending (and Lost kinda did) because of the time invested. But a movie is different. 2 hours is a small price to pay for the pleasure of the mind-f that Usual Suspects delivered.


If the lost fan boys get in hear and see this, there will major issues. frick that bs ending
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52935 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:19 pm to
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the ending ruins the movie and makes it a complete waste of time, imho


Here we go. Does it bother you if you don't figure out a film in the first 30 minutes. Are you so sure of your deductive prowess that if a film or show "fools" you then it was a cheap trick and lazy writing.
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