re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

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Many thanks to The Pain Train on the Fark Board for an appropriate addition to this True Detective gif.

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Rust is priest on the radar of the members of cult because he exudes evil and is a killer. He is also touched with a gift or a calling. He sees things differently and is able to experience things in a way that makes him special.

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Yeah I think that's definitely part of it on the meta level, though it's hard to see how Errol knows about Rust's outlook on life. Though maybe, like Reggie and his brother, he kind of magically sees through him (you're already in Carcosa).

My interpretation was that for Errol, Rust is a priest because, like Errol, he shepherds people into death--which is where they belong, in the nothingness etc.

But in truth, from the point of view of the show, Rust is a priest because like Christ (who according to Christians is the granddaddy of all priests) he sacrifices himself for life.

In a further note, here are two articles on True Detective and the theme of religion that in my view are spot-on...but hey they conform to my own opinions!

What True Detective really says about religion

Daily Beast's review of the finale

Or as Alonzo said in Training Day, "It takes a wolf to catch a wolf."

finally finished it

what a great series

Just rewatched the finale last night. Enjoyed it more than I did the first time and would probably rank the series as an 8.5/10ish.

I've got absolutely no problem with the failure to tie up some of the loose ends. People claiming that those were the driving interest in the show after episodes 1 and 2 are simply incorrect. The initial attraction to the show was the complexity of Rust and how simple Marty interacted with him (confused by him, disgusted, etc.). The multiple red herrings were probably meant to be harmless references for the most part, but the internet took a giant shite on that and critiqued every single detail. Sometimes they were not important, they were just there. I've got no problem with that either. Starting around episode 4 or 5 I told myself I wasn't going to look too deep into the show because it was ONLY 8 episodes and I knew there would be no time to tie every detail together. How did people not understand that?

What I do have a problem with is how weak the dialogue and characters became after Episode 5. That was supposed to be the driving interest of the show, but Rust, Marty, and everything grew a little stale. Both the writing and acting seemed less motivated than before. May have been intentionally trying to show how worn down the characters became over the years. I don't know. It honestly made me believe that the last few episodes were rewritten at some point or something.

Hold the phone there pal. The last three episodes were different but they were not lacking in the writing department. Rust's scenes in the interview with Maynard Gilbough and Thomas Papania were epic. Rust's interrogations of suspects were also monumental. He connected on a personal level, like a father with a woman, and got her to confess to killing her children. He then explained to her that if she got the chance to kill herself she should do so! How is that not epic?

How about the whole Rust and Marty falling out, Rust doing Maggie? Marty "hooked" up with a former prositute, whom he had previously given a $100. Rust had asked him if it were a down payment earlier. Evidently it was, cause he scored. The girl then told him she wanted him to PIIHB. Hello! Marty being Marty, which reminds us why he lost Maggie. We had an epic scene where Rust showed Marty the tape. They shook down Sheriff Childress on a stolen boat. Nevermind how other world screwed up Errol and his sister turned out to be. Man I could go on. Writing was not the problem.

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Rust's scenes in the interview with Maynard Gilbough and Thomas Papania were epic.

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That ended after episode 6, though, leaving 7 and 8. I agree that his interview was phenomenal, though, and his interview techniques were phenomenal.

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How about the whole Rust and Marty falling out, Rust doing Maggie?

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This was a crucial part of the plot, so its importance cannot be understated, but you knew it was coming. You just didn't know when. Rust and Maggie had been clearly flirting all season.

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Marty "hooked" up with a former prositute, whom he had previously given a $100. Rust had asked him if it were a down payment earlier. Evidently it was, cause he scored. The girl then told him she wanted him to PIIHB. Hello!

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I was really indifferent to that girl reappearing and banging him. Almost didn't like how that was written.

Outside of those things that were decent, we were provided with a "green paint job" clue to break a case that spanned almost two decades. That bothered me and it wasn't very creative. I understand that the focus of the show was the partner relationship and not the case, but you have to give it a little more serious attention IMO.

Still, it was one of only a handful of TV shows that I have watched an entire season of. Loved it and was my favorite TV show ever probably along with Mad Men. I'm just a little critical of the last few episodes. But wasn't this Nic P's first effort? He's going to be a beast.

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I agree the big clue that broke the case of out of left field.

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yeah, it was kind of random. But, they were trying to show that Marty had grown as a detective. He was no longer just living off of Rust's work and writing the reports. He was actually able to do good detective work. Same thing with him explaining things to Rust in the car. Rust replied, "well, look at you."

It was still pretty lame. I would have rathered if the clue had accidentally fallen into their lap. But, the point was that Marty was growing as a person and completely different than before. Rust said he needed him. But, I don't even think Rust knew that he needed Marty to essentially solve the case for him, which he did.

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Yeah, kinda...the clue just came out of nowhere, and then boom, throttled them towards the climax. I don't really hold it against the episode/writing though. What other clue would've made me happier? I don't know. Something had to be the break in the case, that was as decent as anything, I guess. It's like on Sherlock...a show I mostly love...the story continues until it's time for Sherlock to solve the case, he spouts off three or four "who would've ever noticed that, but Sherlock" facts, then the case/episode gets wrapped up. Most mystery shows are like that, the good ones like Sherlock and TD, can add some flair to it.

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they could've had a picture of the old school without grass cut. Then, a picture of when it was cut. Lead them to look deeper into when and why they started maintaining the lawn for it?

so I finallyfinished off the last episode

wtf though

they didn't get em all