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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:11 pm to
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It's not a term paper where a teacher is going to deduct points for going off topic or explaining things unrelated to your paper.

no it's not, but it's a group of datapoints that are out there to be judged/analyzed. that's a major problem with the overall product

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A show like this needs filler. It's a good way to keep the audience guessing.

that is basically a cheap trick and should be held against it, if we're looking at this as solely a character study

it's a bait and switch at best

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And something's were left unexplained.

a whole lot was left unexplained. like i've said for a while now, if i told people after episode 2 that none of the major points of the mystery would be resolved except a couple of names of who was involved, they would have quit the show.

i haven't seen this much of a collective change in viewpoint since Lost, and that says a lot

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I honestly thought I was over analytical. But holy mother of god, you take the cake. Where are you getting this energy from?

you can compare TD to LSU football. i have high expectations and when they aren't met, it sucks. add on people defending the mediocrity and trying to mold it into some form of being so that they can claim it did meet their expectations, it triggers something in me. always has, just like LSU FB (although i've stopped giving as much of a frick about that over time due to all of the frickups...just like i will with TD season 2 i'm sure)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476128 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:12 pm to
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The point went over your head.

your point was a square peg trying to fit into a round hole

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The point is the story.

obviously in this case, it wasn't
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:15 pm to
This aint law school bro
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476128 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:18 pm to
if ASoI&F just abandons its main storyline, i may fricking kill something above an insect
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5246 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:20 pm to
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I'm just gonna assume it is his dad. Why he was chained to the bed, no idea.

The fact that it could have been his dad and his mouth was sewn shut leads you to believe Errol may have been punishing him for trying to make him stop the public displays.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:21 pm to
Why must if be efficient if every episode was enjoyable?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:28 pm to
Well that wont happen because the fat man is a genius
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476128 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:28 pm to
i feel like the episodes (and draw of them) ended up being a bait and switch and/or a complete tease

that's not enjoyable when you look back on it...not to me (although i can see how if you get wrapped up in it, how it can feel great at the time)

i just got a call that i need to pick something up at court. i'll be back in a short bit
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:28 pm to
Serious business
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476128 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:28 pm to
to make a comparison, if the fat man died today, i'd quit...and i certainly wouldn't continue until the end and then claim, "oh i was much more concerned with the character study"
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:29 pm to
How could anyone that watched the first 7 eps of this show have anticipated a nicely tied bow at the end with hackish footage of perp walks of big wigs framed under the guise of TV news coverage?

That was never, ever going to happen.

Ever.

They put out red herrings and dedicated time to them and never closed them out. I never expected them to do so. It was going to stay tight around Rust and Marty and their part in closing out their part of the story.

Marty said it himself at Rust's bedside. We were never going to get them all, but we got our guy. We finished our part of this.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:31 pm to
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with all of the unanswered questions and all of the rushed/magical detective work in the "present", i was not wrong



It didn't feel rushed to me. The guy has been obsessing over it for a while, but he finally got another pair of eyes on it.

And I could really care less about what the rituals were for, or the other laundry list of things you wanna know. Would it make the show that much better if you knew every freaking detail? Either you're a miserable SOB or you just want to appear to be more sophisticated and harder to please.

eta:
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that's not enjoyable when you look back on it...not to me (although i can see how if you get wrapped up in it, how it can feel great at the time)



This is what I'm talking about.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 4:35 pm
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:34 pm to
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or let me ask: do you think we needed 8 hours to tell the story of these characters and show their minimal development


Jake. it's a tv show. It's not a term paper where a teacher is going to deduct points for going off topic or explaining things unrelated to your paper.

A show like this needs filler. It's a good way to keep the audience guessing. No, all the leads didn't work out. And something's were left unexplained. But that is how police work is. In the concept of the show, it filled that void & was also immensely entertaining at the same time.

I honestly thought I was over analytical. But holy mother of god, you take the cake. Where are you getting this energy from?



Nicely stated.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:35 pm to
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i feel like the episodes (and draw of them) ended up being a bait and switch and/or a complete tease


That's the product of jumping around 20 years of storyline. It never really bothered me. I think there was really only 1 subpar episode
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:36 pm to
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if ASoI&F just abandons its main storyline, i may fricking kill something above an insect


Start picking out your victim. GRRM is going string this bitch out for the $$$ and then croak before he finishes.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13546 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:37 pm to
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you can compare TD to LSU football. i have high expectations and when they aren't met, it sucks. add on people defending the mediocrity and trying to mold it into some form of being so that they can claim it did meet their expectations, it triggers something in me. always has, just like LSU FB (although i've stopped giving as much of a frick about that over time due to all of the frickups...just like i will with TD season 2 i'm sure)



Nice.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:44 pm to
btw, you ruined these True Detective threads for me.

it's hard to read with your insistence in every thread.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:49 pm to
Him and theunknownknight are big killjoys.
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
The Farm
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7287 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:54 pm to
SFP

Gets the deserved "C'Mon Man".

I think I could write a book on your neurosis I've seen the last decade.

I truly wish, that even with your obesity, you live long enough for someone to examine that incredibly faulty melon of yours.
Posted by massiveattack
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:57 pm to
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SlowFlowPro



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