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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:10 pm to
Also agree with this. 10/10 would watch again.
Posted by tiger2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:14 pm to
the "true detective" in this series wasn't Hart and Cohle finding the serial killer or exposing the cult, it was about them finding themselves. Plus, the up and down journey of life before reaching contentment.




Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

the "true detective" in this series wasn't Hart and Cohle finding the serial killer or exposing the cult, it was about them finding themselves. Plus, the up and down journey of life before reaching contentment.

That could be it or it could be Rust for not giving up after 17 years and what looked like a solved case.
Posted by Scoop
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:43 pm to
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I think the guy on the bed is the mummified body of some dead family member, maybe his dad.


The guy on the bed was not mummified. He was also not too long passed.

Couple of days maybe.

That's what I can't figure out.

The DOB on Erolls's dad was 1944 so he'd have been 68.

The guy looked about 68.



I'm just gonna assume it is his dad. Why he was chained to the bed, no idea.


Also, I took a couple of screen captures of the dead guy on the bed scene on my iPad to try and read some of the writing on the wall. In doing so, I noticed the guy's mouth was sewed shut.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:49 pm to
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This, combined with the many peoples' inability to handle that.

i think people can handle it, but they wouldn't have watched the show had they known the mystery would be Lost-ized

that was the main draw, and it left people either changing their tune or disappointed

*ETA: i tried to tell everyone they wouldn't wrap up the story...a long arse time ago
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:50 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476128 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:51 pm to
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I'm glad it was more character driven

you're not upset at all the wasted time?

the story of the characters could have easily been told in about 3 hours. we didn't need 8

or let me ask: do you think we needed 8 hours to tell the story of these characters and show their minimal development
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:54 pm to
Where did you hide blondie's body bro?
Posted by Johnny4lsu
Opelousas, LA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:55 pm to
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SlowFlowPro
You must be a miserable human being...Geez
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:56 pm to
I could tell you the plot of The Hobbit in 5-10 minutes. Is that a good substitute for reading the book?
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:59 pm to
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*ETA: i tried to tell everyone they wouldn't wrap up the story...a long arse time ago


You did, and you were wrong.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476128 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:59 pm to
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I could tell you the plot of The Hobbit in 5-10 minutes. Is that a good substitute for reading the book?

the Hobbit isn't a "character study"

it's an adventure story with a complete plot
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:00 pm to
A couple of good articles I found today. This one on the final episode and the series in general:

LINK

And this one for people interested in the philosophical questions asked by the show:

LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476128 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:00 pm to
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You did, and you were wrong.

with all of the unanswered questions and all of the rushed/magical detective work in the "present", i was not wrong

you may want to change the context of my prediction, but it doesn't change what i said and what it meant at the time
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:02 pm to
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the story of the characters could have easily been told in about 3 hours. we didn't need 8


I still love that you think that's a valid argument. "Well I wouldn't have written it that way, so it's obviously a flaw."

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290733 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:05 pm to
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or let me ask: do you think we needed 8 hours to tell the story of these characters and show their minimal development


Jake. it's a tv show. It's not a term paper where a teacher is going to deduct points for going off topic or explaining things unrelated to your paper.

A show like this needs filler. It's a good way to keep the audience guessing. No, all the leads didn't work out. And something's were left unexplained. But that is how police work is. In the concept of the show, it filled that void & was also immensely entertaining at the same time.

I honestly thought I was over analytical. But holy mother of god, you take the cake. Where are you getting this energy from?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:06 pm to
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"Well I wouldn't have written it that way, so it's obviously a flaw."

it's called efficiency. it's not a novel concept

it's not about "i wouldn't have written it that way" or "i was disappointed," because i had already accepted the show was not going to live up to my massive expectations of a great show. that occurred weeks ago

as i've said multiple times, i'm more laughing at the complete change in tone of so many posters. they criticized me for saying there wasn't enough time to wrap up the story, and now criticize me for being right and bringing it up. apparently i missed the memo on when the consensus of this show shifted, but it occurred about 8:30pm CST
Posted by Scoop
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Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:06 pm to
Here is a screen cap of the guy on the bed.

Behind him you can see that it says "Yesterday" and then something I can't make out. Under that it says "I am real, I am real."

Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20475 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:10 pm to
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it's called efficiency. it's not a novel concept




Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25426 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:11 pm to
The point went over your head. The example could have been any novel or work of fiction. The point is the story. It isn't a law manual.
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