re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

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All of the things that, in the previous episode, Cohle was telling Marty that he had uncovered, and what we saw on the videotape, pointed to a larger group of men working on these things. But we get to the end, and it's just Errol left, along with his father in the shed. How many other people were involved in the specific things that Cohle and Hart were investigating?

Nic Pizzolatto: There's the men in the video, and there's about 10 of them. Then you can begin to look at that as if that cult began to disintegrate shortly afterwards, and then there were always revenants existing on a local level. If you track the name Childress, you realize Sheriff Childress was the sheriff when Marie Fontenot disappeared, an Officer Childress was attending to Guy Francis in 2002 when he committed suicide. The conspiracies that I've researched and encountered, they seem to happen very ad hoc: they become conspiracies when it's necessary to have a conspiracy. I think it would have rang false to have Hart and Cohle suddenly clean up 50 years of the culture history that led to Errol Childress, or to get all the men in that video. It's important to me, I think, that Cohle says, "We didn't get em all, Marty," and Marty says, "We ain't going to. This isn't that kind of world." This isn't the kind of world where you mop up everything. We discharged our duty, but of course there are levels and wheels and historical contexts to what happened that we'll never be able to touch.

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I do have one question though...do we know the significance of Rust and the Yellow King? Like when he was interrogating that dude in prison and he mentioned the YK and Rust went off the deep end on his arse...what was the significance of that?

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i think on when re-watching it, the people that focused too tightly on the cult stuff will hopefully be able to catch more of the character end.

I imagine this will hold up well over time in part due to that dynamic.

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one day Hart is a big time detective with a young family and pretty young side pieces, then the next he's eating lean cuisine alone and surfing internet dating sites. Not worth a rewatch, for me.

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That said, I think I've made clear that my only interest in the Chambers stuff (Robert W. Chambers wrote "The King in Yellow") is as a story that has a place in American myth. And it's a story about a story that drives people into madness. That was mainly it. Beyond that, I'm interested in the atmosphere of cosmic horror, but that's about all I have to say about weird fiction. I did feel the perception was tilted more towards weird fiction than perhaps it should have been. For instance, if someone needs a book to read along with season 1 of "True Detective," I would recommend the King James Old Testament. I wouldn't tell anyone to go buy Robert Chambers. It's not that great a book. Joseph Conrad and William Faulkner I think are in there far more than Chambers or Lovecraft.

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If I had the time I'd go through and down vote every SFP post connected with True Detective.

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So what's the general consensus on the finale? And more importantly, what does SFP think?


I liked it. I thought it was the right amount of weird and well enough done that I was satisfied.

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the evolving personalities and lives of these two men over the years is not as compelling as the (cult/powerful men/serial killer/coverup) .

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