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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:31 am to Salmon
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:31 am to Salmon
Thank you. Rust was kind of mumbling out of his but by design and I played it over and over and still couldn't make it out. Good to know the actual translation. 
Also, I know this has been mentioned/analyzed but I did think the connection with the green ears in the picture and the green, freshly painted house was a leap. To me it would have made more sense for Rust to have remembered the man on the lawn more after they discovered the Childress maintenance business.
Also, I know this has been mentioned/analyzed but I did think the connection with the green ears in the picture and the green, freshly painted house was a leap. To me it would have made more sense for Rust to have remembered the man on the lawn more after they discovered the Childress maintenance business.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:32 am to 632627
Wrong. You need the depth and mythic resonance of the evil to even have the sort of dialogue that occurs between Rust and Marty.
What you don't need is every single aspect of the Cult to be explained!
What you don't need is every single aspect of the Cult to be explained!
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:32 am to Salmon
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like i said earlier, he essentially cannibalized his own story(rust and martys relationship) by creating something more interesting(the cult and murders).
I do agree with this to an extent
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:32 am to Bayou Sam
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Rust-as-Jesus
Was waiting to hear Someone say it
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:33 am to Displaced
Just jumping in here to ask if anyone else had a problem with the final scene where Rust and Marty are in the hospital parking lot and, with the open shirt views of Rust, it did not appear that he had either a bandage or a scar from getting stabbed in the gut? At the time of the stabbing when Marty tells Rust it is "not that bad" while looking at the bleeding, the wound appeared to be in the center of his torso.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:34 am to Putty
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frick reading this whole thread, but am I correct that:
1. Basically none of the kidfrickers got caught;
2. Errol was just a victim who was a little peeved at what the kidfrickers had done to him so he was going to inflict the worst kind of pain on them and "all the children of men" - so his motivation for the killing spree was in reaction to the child molestation, not as part of it;
3. There was no "cult" other than Errol, crazy lady, Reggie and Dewall;
4. In a sense, Marty and Rust were on the wrong trail the whole time, as they thought the kidfrickers were doing the killing when in actuality it was the enemy of the kidfrickers - they just kind of lucked into finding Errol
5. What about Reggie's comment about rich and powerful people doing the devil worship? Wouldn't classify Errol as rich, and wouldn't (based on what we know) classify the kidfrickers as devil worshippers
I would say you are wrong on all counts. Quite impressive, really.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:34 am to 632627
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Everybody got so wrapped up in trying to solve the mystery, that the ending left many unsatisfied.
Not really. Some of us could tell very early on what this show was about, and just enjoyed the ride, which was very fun, btw.
The show is called "True Detective" not "The Louisiana File" or "The Serial killer on the Bayou" or whatever.
I mean he told us in the show title that is was a character study.
It ended up being a good one, and the plot drivers were very intriguing and I was no disappointed one bit.
I could see how, if you didn't realize you were watching a character show, and thought this was Beverly Hills Cop or 24 or something you might be disappointed though.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 11:37 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:35 am to 632627
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like i said earlier, he essentially cannibalized his own story(rust and martys relationship) by creating something more interesting(the cult and murders).
Without all that stuff it wouldn't have been nearly as good. Those details added texture and intrigue to the story. All the little details made the journey of the story simply a lot more interesting. The details help to bring everything to life.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:37 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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I could see how, if you didn't realize you were watching a character show, and thought this was Beverly Hills Cop or 24 or something you might be disappointed though.
I also realized early on that this was a character study and not about the mystery
but I agree with random numbers person that the audience became more interested in the cult/symbolism than the characters
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:37 am to davesdawgs
i honestly would've liked to see Marty apologize to his family at the end for being the way he was.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:40 am to 632627
I have one question for all the show haters
and that includes the entertainment of discussing this show extensively on message boards and IRL.
I know I was.
and that includes the entertainment of discussing this show extensively on message boards and IRL.
I know I was.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:43 am to Salmon
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I also realized early on that this was a character study and not about the mystery
but I agree with random numbers person that the audience became more interested in the cult/symbolism than the characters
I think we need to distinguish between two things. In one sense, it's not true that show was "just about the character"--if by that you mean that the myth was merely a vehicle to get the characters rolling. I think the air of mystery and depth is much more crucial to the substance of the show than that.
On the other hand, just like most people do in internet fora, you've got all these people on reddit etc. pouring all their energy into the wrong things. Easter eggs and all that. It's fun to a degree but it's no way to go through life or to appreciate serious art.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:44 am to Salmon
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I also realized early on that this was a character study and not about the mystery
but I agree with random numbers person that the audience became more interested in the cult/symbolism than the characters
involving a cult and all that voodoo stuff is fine, but implicating government level cover ups going generations back is probably where Nic P had too many viewers solely focused on solving a multi layered mystery than simply enjoying the rust and marty show.
let's be honest, were people anxious to see the next episode in anticipation of what clues are next unraveled in the mystery, or they couldn't wait to hear what type of philosophical banter rust would spew on marty?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:45 am to Bayou Sam
I do admit that I probably got too caught up in the Easter eggs and whatnot and was left wanting just a bit more in the finale
but that is my fault, not the shows
but that is my fault, not the shows
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:45 am to Salmon
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I also realized early on that this was a character study and not about the mystery
but I agree with random numbers person that the audience became more interested in the cult/symbolism than the characters
i think on when re-watching it, the people that focused too tightly on the cult stuff will hopefully be able to catch more of the character end.
I imagine this will hold up well over time in part due to that dynamic.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:46 am to 632627
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let's be honest, were people anxious to see the next episode in anticipation of what clues are next unraveled in the mystery, or they couldn't wait to hear what type of philosophical banter rust would spew on marty?
Yeah that's going to be the latter for me.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:48 am to Salmon
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I do admit that I probably got too caught up in the Easter eggs and whatnot and was left wanting just a bit more in the finale
but that is my fault, not the shows
I don't think it's your fault exactly. It just shows the strength of the show in creating an atmosphere of depth and mystery that pulled you in carcosa-like. It pulled me in to, I just didn't think that chasing these little clues was going to amount to much in the end.
(Though I did think there was more to the Audrey story than there apparently was).
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:48 am to Salmon
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I do admit that I probably got too caught up in the Easter eggs and whatnot and was left wanting just a bit more in the finale
but that is my fault, not the shows
Yep. It was fun too. It gave us a roller coaster ride, and kept us discussing and wondering. I knew none of it mattered, but it was still fun to act like it did. In the end we were brought back to the reality of it, which has in turn left us wanting more....
Season 2
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 11:50 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:50 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Season 2
which is apparently going to focus on the occult as well
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:51 am to Salmon
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Season 2
which is apparently going to focus on the occult as well
Rust "We didn't get em all"
Sign me up for R&M getting them all
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