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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:07 am to
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Definitely one of the overlooked aspects of the episode is how Rust is now no longer a cynical nihilist.


The only thing I didn't like about the finale is the Rust-as-Jesus thing at the end in the hospital.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:08 am to
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Rust-as-Jesus thing at the end in the hospital.



Rust-as-Jesus got started before he ever got to the hospital.
Posted by Saintsisit
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:10 am to
I know Maggie didn't have a tie in to the cult but what was up w/ the creepy music when her and the girls walked up to the hospital bed?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:11 am to
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) How did some psycho inbred back in a swamp have so many political/law connections?


he was related to them

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2) Why did so many of the ring always accuse Rust of being/involved the yellow king, carcosa, etc.


they were insane

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3) If Marty's kids were not involved then why did they have some pics and the doll scene?


either Nic was just fricking with the audience, or they were involved but never truly revealed
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:12 am to
Sure, I'm talking about the visual. It was cheesy and overselling what is at that point a cliche.
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:12 am to
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3) If Marty's kids were not involved then why did they have some pics and the doll scene?


either Nic was just fricking with the audience, or they were involved but never truly revealed


99% sure just fricking with the audience
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:15 am to
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3) If Marty's kids were not involved then why did they have some pics and the doll scene?


because it was about the mystery, until it wasnt.
Posted by tiger2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:18 am to
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O.k. Then explain how Dora Lange and gayboy and other Light of the Way/Courir de Mardi Gras kids were obvious victims of the cult sexual abuse as kids but don't get killed? Dora Lange only gets killed much later on after "meeting a king" meaning she did not know or recognize Errol from earlier in life (not recognizing him would have been pretty difficult).

Did the Tuttle cult only start killing people once Errol cam of age? I can't remember any body of any kid ever being found until Errol's place.


you are right. There are gigantic obvious plot holes in this story because of this ending.

Had they ended this the right way, we could enjoy this show on multiple viewings (picking up bits of information).
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:20 am to
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you are right. There are gigantic obvious plot holes in this story because of this ending.


I don't think you know what a "plot hole" is
Posted by tLSU
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:22 am to
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Was that Ft. St. Phillip?


It was Fort Macomb.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 11:23 am
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:22 am to
Sorry, what're the plot holes here? Does every single person who is victimized by the cult have to be victimized in the same way?

Errol is simply a spin-off from whatever it was the rich folks were up to in the past. It seems pretty clear that the old cult hasn't been active for some time, and Errol is the continuation of its religion.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:23 am to
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Displaced


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632627


You guys spent all morning really sticking it to these True Detective fans!! You showed them!!!111
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:24 am to
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I don't think you know what a "plot hole" is


Verbatim of what I was about to post.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:25 am to
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a coma is like a living death. You are brain dead except for your heartbeat and breathing. People in comas don't have thoughts.


As someone who has been in a coma before, I would disagree. You most certainly perceive and respond to external stimuli in different manners. And it is more than a pure behavioral response.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:26 am to
Thanks!

Your appreciation makes it all worthwhile!
Posted by 632627
LA
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:28 am to
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you are right. There are gigantic obvious plot holes in this story because of this ending.


I don't think you know what a "plot hole" is


i think the fundamental error Nic P made was giving us the intriguing mystery involving cults, government level cover ups, multi generation serial killers and voodoo when all he wanted to do was tell the story of the relationship between 2 very different guys. Everybody got so wrapped up in trying to solve the mystery, that the ending left many unsatisfied. Nic P should have either a. left out all the cult and cover up shite, and just made it a straight forward murder investigation or b. planned on having this story span multiple seasons and many more episodes.

like i said earlier, he essentially cannibalized his own story(rust and martys relationship) by creating something more interesting(the cult and murders).
Posted by Samso
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:29 am to
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This was fertile hunting grounds for SFP to antagonize, wildly popular show set in Louisiana. If anything this was the perfect topic for him to shite on. I firmly believe he believes only about half of what he puts on here, either that or Nick P fricked his sister back in his LC days.


Lol @ the idiots who take that guy seriously. Who cares if he is a douchey troll...this is the internet, there will always be THAT GUY who shits on everything.
Posted by tigerswin03
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:30 am to
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so maybe i downplayed the national reception, but it doesn't hurt my argument because it was a good show and worthy of some praise. I simply think that the board reception of the show was/is bias.


I totally disagree , most people on this website look for reasons to complain about Louisiana ......

Just ask everyone what they think about swamp people or the big easy ......
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15070 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:31 am to
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You guys spent all morning really sticking it to these True Detective fans!! You showed them!!!111


i liked this show a lot, better than boardwalk empire and better than the last 2 seasons of homeland. i just feel that it had potential to be better.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:31 am to
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like i said earlier, he essentially cannibalized his own story(rust and martys relationship) by creating something more interesting(the cult and murders).


I do agree with this to an extent
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