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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:53 am to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:53 am to
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i felt it was a lazy and very predictable way to end the Rust character.


I thought his death would have been lazy/predictable. Since about week 3, most people have been speculating on Rust's demise. I thought it was rather refreshing to have both of them survive.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:53 am to
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frick reading this whole thread, but am I correct that: 1. Basically none of the kidfrickers got caught; 2. Errol was just a victim who was a little peeved at what the kidfrickers had done to him so he was going to inflict the worst kind of pain on them and "all the children of men" - so his motivation for the killing spree was in reaction to the child molestation, not as part of it; 3. There was no "cult" other than Errol, crazy lady, Reggie and Dewall; 4. In a sense, Marty and Rust were on the wrong trail the whole time, as they thought the kidfrickers were doing the killing when in actuality it was the enemy of the kidfrickers - they just kind of lucked into finding Errol 5. What about Reggie's comment about rich and powerful people doing the devil worship? Wouldn't classify Errol as rich, and wouldn't (based on what we know) classify the kidfrickers as devil worshippers



prepare to be yelled at by "It's not about the cult, it's about the characters!!!"

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:53 am to
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2. Errol was just a victim who was a little peeved at what the kidfrickers had done to him so he was going to inflict the worst kind of pain on them and "all the children of men" - so his motivation for the killing spree was in reaction to the child molestation, not as part of it;
3. There was no "cult" other than Errol, crazy lady, Reggie and Dewall;
4. In a sense, Marty and Rust were on the wrong trail the whole time, as they thought the kidfrickers were doing the killing when in actuality it was the enemy of the kidfrickers - they just kind of lucked into finding Errol


pretty sure this is all wrong
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:53 am to
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it would have been lazy to kill him


agreed. the dark unhappy ending is more of a cliche now than a "happy ending"...I'm satisfied with the ending because of where these two men ended up at teh conclusion.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:54 am to
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the dark unhappy ending is more of a cliche now than a "happy ending"..


if Rust would have not had his "coming to Jesus" moment, people would have bitched that Rust never developed

some people just like to bitch
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:55 am to
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Since about week 3, most people have been speculating on Rust's demise


when did it come to light that the writers planned to do a different set of lead characters every season?

this probably gave weight to the death angle.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:56 am to
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the fact that you watch Buffy the vampire slayer tells me all I need to know about you


what are you trying to say here? Buffy is bad?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:58 am to
pretty much spot on wrong on every point there putty. not sure if you were joking
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:59 am to
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pretty sure this is all wrong


Well, #2 is right bc he said as much. He specifically said something about "what they did to him" and that was the motivation for his killings. I just don't get how it fits together. However, maybe Ryno is right and he started off associated from the cult and just went a little off the reservation.

I guess #3 should have been more specific. There was clearly a bigger, more influential child molestation cult, but it seemed like the Yellow King Cult was limited to Errol, Reggie and Dewall. I just don't buy that the governor and the like would associate at all with a dirt farmer like Errol.

I stand by #4 even if everything Ryno said is true. The governor and his vast conspiracy was not the killer and really had no relationship to the killings other than the fact that Errol, who was doing the killings, was formerly a victim.

Oh, and paw in the shed was not dead. He was keeping him alive.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 10:04 am
Posted by mouton
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:00 am to
The whole green paint being the clue that broke the case was pretty sloppy writing.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:02 am to
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The whole green paint being the clue that broke the case was pretty sloppy writing.


explain

people toss around "sloppy" or "lazy" writing all the time but never really explain how
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:04 am to
Seeing a green house and assuming thats where the green ears came from is a REALLY big stretch.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:05 am to
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frick reading this whole thread, but am I correct that:

Nope, you are wrong on literally every single one of your points. Nice job.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:05 am to
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Don't get me wrong, this show was great, but it seems like around here it was pushed from great to epic because of the location.

Not like the show is being heaped with praise nationally or anything.


go back to the individual threads for the first 2 episodes. It was more than just praise(which i agree the show deserves). There were countless comments about this being the G.O.A.T. and best 2 hours of television ever witnessed, etc. Intertwined were people being giddy over the LSU baseball reference and identifying every single location used.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:06 am to
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1. Basically none of the kidfrickers got caught;


There are still many out there.

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2. Errol was just a victim who was a little peeved at what the kidfrickers had done to him so he was going to inflict the worst kind of pain on them and "all the children of men" - so his motivation for the killing spree was in reaction to the child molestation, not as part of it;


I don't think so. He was molesting little kids and killing them. There was tons of missing children buried in his backyard.

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3. There was no "cult" other than Errol, crazy lady, Reggie and Dewall;


No there were more. It seems like it started with the grandfather, who was fricked up, molesting kids, and created several offspring. The Childress' and the Tuttles were involved to some extent.

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4. In a sense, Marty and Rust were on the wrong trail the whole time, as they thought the kidfrickers were doing the killing when in actuality it was the enemy of the kidfrickers - they just kind of lucked into finding Errol


No Errol was one of the kidfrickers.

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5. What about Reggie's comment about rich and powerful people doing the devil worship? Wouldn't classify Errol as rich, and wouldn't (based on what we know) classify the kidfrickers as devil worshippers


His family contained some very rich and powerful people. Errol seemed to have been the "worst" one but he wasn't the most powerful. He was definitely connected to the rich and powerful through his family/half-family.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:07 am to
not when its a house that a missing child lived in.

And the fact they found the devil catcher in the playhouse.

Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:07 am to
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There were countless comments about this being the G.O.A.T. and best 2 hours of television ever witnessed, etc. Intertwined were people being giddy over the LSU baseball reference and identifying every single location used.


I don't see how the 2 have to be connected...
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:08 am to
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but it seemed like the Yellow King Cult was limited to Errol, Reggie and Dewall. I just don't buy that the governor and the like would associate at all with a dirt farmer like Errol


did you even watch the show?
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:08 am to
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Seeing a green house and assuming thats where the green ears came from is a REALLY big stretch.


I see why people can think that. I personally didn't mind that "leap"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:09 am to
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not when its a house that a missing child lived in. 

Wut?

I thought it was random

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And the fact they found the devil catcher in the playhouse. 

It wasnt the fontenot house I dont think
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