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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:28 am to Peazey
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:28 am to Peazey
And the title of the episode further illustrates the struggle with light and dark that Rust is talking about in the final scene. Form is the opposite of void. When Rust was in a coma, he was in the void because a coma is like a living death. You are brain dead except for your heartbeat and breathing. People in comas don't have thoughts.
But in the void he felt his daughter's presence and said it felt real to him. I loved that monologue because it mirrored something he said earlier this season about the faces of people who are near death. He says they look content because they're finally able to let go. When Rust tried to let go, he woke up. So the existential struggle inside Rust continues, but now he has hope that he may be wrong about it.
But in the void he felt his daughter's presence and said it felt real to him. I loved that monologue because it mirrored something he said earlier this season about the faces of people who are near death. He says they look content because they're finally able to let go. When Rust tried to let go, he woke up. So the existential struggle inside Rust continues, but now he has hope that he may be wrong about it.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:28 am to EarthwormJim
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well directed, well shot,
This is what I liked most about the series, I loved the way it was shot.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:28 am to Displaced
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Like i said... ripped straight outta season 6 of Buffy.
Sure thing, man.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:29 am to Displaced
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because i have a feeling that a large majority of the praise it is getting (note: i agree it was good, but not GOAT like this board wants one to believe) is due to the fact that it was set and filmed in S. LA.
there is validity to this statement. if you go back and read the threads for the first 3 episodes or so, a lot of what you would see is "holy shite this is the greatest thing I've ever seen on tv" followed by "hey thats the bar a couple miles outside new orleans west on interstate 10".
Don't get me wrong, this show was great, but it seems like around here it was pushed from great to epic because of the location.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
Ok, I watched the series and read the entire thread and I think this sums it up for:
More Cow Bell!
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SlowFlowPro
More Cow Bell!
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:31 am to EarthwormJim
there is no better way to admit you've lost than smug condescension. 
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:34 am to Displaced
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there is no better way to admit you've lost than smug condescension.
So you pull a veritable "Simpsons did it" and you think you've won something?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:34 am to Displaced
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Like i said... ripped straight outta season 6 of Buffy.
so the theme has been done before
I don't get why this is a big deal for some people?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:34 am to 632627
i think the problem is that Nic P cannibalized his buddy cop story by creating such an intriguing murder mystery. He only wanted to use the mystery to tell rust and marty's story, but based on countless theories discussed here and reddit, it seems more people were interested in solving the mystery. So ultimately when Nic P winds the story down by focusing on marty and rust, and leaving a ton of loose ends with the cult murder mystery, lots of people are ultimately disappointed.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:35 am to Displaced
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there is no better way to admit you've lost than smug condescension
Lost? What did I lose? That light vs dark is pulled from Buffy? Yes, I'm the loser.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:35 am to Stonehog
anyone know who the old corpse was in errol's house?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:36 am to Salmon
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because i have a feeling that a large majority of the praise it is getting (note: i agree it was good, but not GOAT like this board wants one to believe) is due to the fact that it was set and filmed in S. LA.
for me, this has absolutely nothing to do with it
I give it praise for the following reasons, in this order.
1. Matthew McConaughey does an incredible job of playing a superb character in Rust Cohle.
2. Woody Harrelson does a great job in playing a really good supporting character in Marty Hart.
3. The overall production is very good.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:36 am to 632627
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think the problem is that Nic P cannibalized his buddy cop story by creating such an intriguing murder mystery. He only wanted to use the mystery to tell rust and marty's story, but based on countless theories discussed here and reddit, it seems more people were interested in solving the mystery. So ultimately when Nic P winds the story down by focusing on marty and rust, and leaving a ton of loose ends with the cult murder mystery, lots of people are ultimately disappointed.
Yeah, that's pretty spot on.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:36 am to Stonehog
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So you pull a veritable "Simpsons did it" and you think you've won something?
im not trying to win anything. i'm just trying to justify why i thought the show had a lackluster ending.
perhapse saying the other poster "had lost" was a poor choice of words.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:39 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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1. Matthew McConaughey does an incredible job of playing a superb character in Rust Cohle.
I'll add to say that i would like to see him try out a different character type since he started taking serious and dramatic roles.
mud, True Detective, Dallas Buyers Club (for the most part) all felt like the same character to me. Not to say he didn't play them well, but he is becoming a one trick pony in his new career path.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:39 am to Finkle is Einhorn
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What was the black stars about?
What was the antler crown on Dora Lange about?
What was the point with the former lsu baseball player?
What was the meaning behind the spiral?
Marty daughter?
What role did the prostitutes play in the story?
Honestly, do people not know how an investigation goes? You investigate any little clue you can find, and you look into it.
Every little thing does not have to connect to the final outcome.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:40 am to Displaced
I can't believe people are upset because the writer of the show didn't consult them between episodes as to how they wanted him to make the next episode.
How is it even enjoyable to watch TV like that?
How is it even enjoyable to watch TV like that?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:41 am to 632627
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Don't get me wrong, this show was great, but it seems like around here it was pushed from great to epic because of the location.
Not like the show is being heaped with praise nationally or anything.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:42 am to EarthwormJim
I really enjoyed the final hospital scene but damn the whole investigation arc got mailed in. So the clue that was under Marty's nose the whole time was a old picture of a random house that had been painted green and the audience isn't even given this until halfway through the last episode? Ugh.
Just name the damn show True Bromance or True Buddy Cop. Don't make this a detective show if the detective part takes a back seat to character development.
Just name the damn show True Bromance or True Buddy Cop. Don't make this a detective show if the detective part takes a back seat to character development.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 9:43 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:42 am to Salmon
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Like i said... ripped straight outta season 6 of Buffy.
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so the theme has been done before
I don't get why this is a big deal for some people?
No kidding. Stories about the battle between good and evil (light and dark) have been told since the beginning of time and they will be continued to be told.
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