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re: Top Gun: Maverick — just want to reiterate how…
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:42 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:42 am to Ace Midnight
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I think the implication of the scandal being recited in a litany of Maverick's other transgressions suggests she couldn't have been any older than 20 and likely 18 or 19.
As someone who is currently serving in the Navy, I'll play this game.
Dating the admiral's daughter when you yourself are serving under him/her is not illegal, however it is very unadvisable. The fact that Goose knew immediately who Stinger was talking about during the arse chewing infers that they served under this admiral, either in his capacity as the Carrier Strike Group commander or some other role that would have brought them into direct contact with him on a frequent basis.
While there is no UCMJ article or Navy regulation which would have prevented him from seeing Penny Benjamin, it definitely would be a bad look for the admiral and could lead to charges of favoritism or undue fraternization. Admiral Benjamin likely disproved of the match, told Maverick to stay away, but Maverick being Maverick, he likely ignored the admiral.
It's likely that Maverick's fling with Benjamin brought down unneeded heat on Stinger, who would have had to cover Maverick's arse. As he was venting his frustration with Maverick as CAG, Stinger probably brought up the Penny Benjamin thing to ram home the point that Maverick was a huge pain in his arse.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 7:44 am
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:47 am to RollTide1987
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Stinger probably brought up the Penny Benjamin thing to ram home the point that Maverick was a huge pain in his arse.
Without a doubt.
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As someone who is currently serving in the Navy, I'll play this game.
Do we want to talk about a 58 - 59 year old O-6 (NOT a Mustang, a flyboy since age 22) hanging around, well, well, well after MRD?
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:02 am to CocomoLSU
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The more I see it the more I think it deserves an argument for the best sequel of all time (not saying it is, just that it’s arguable)
It’s not and not arguable.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:14 am to PassingThrough
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:19 am to kciDAtaE
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It’s not and not arguable.
Again, I love these films, but part of this is the overall drop in quality of Hollywood output over past 8 to 10 years. If you've been served sewage for years, then any edible meal is going to taste good.
However, I think it is arguable that Maverick is the best "stale" sequel of all time (think things like Texasville - 1990 sequel to 1971's Last Picture Show, or Color of Money - coincidentally Cruise - the 1986 sequel to 1961's The Hustler).
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 8:33 am
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:22 am to lsusa
quote:Beauty is in the eye of the holder. To say that Maverick is not a great movie is just as wrong.
To say that Maverick is a “great movie” is wrong cause it’s not.
To YOU it's not.
FYI, movies don't have to be "deep" in substance to be great.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:29 am to Proximo
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Very overrated
I'll never understand the hype for this movie. It was OK at best.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:35 am to Aubie Spr96
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I'll never understand the hype for this movie. It was OK at best.
The original Top Gun was probably my favorite movie growing up as a kid. I watched it so much I wore out 2 VHS tapes of it, so obviously the movie has always meant a great deal to me. Throw out all the perceived "flaws" in the movie, the way this story linked back 30 years was brilliant and fun. I enjoy Maverick just as much or more than the original.
I can understand that if you don't have the sentimental value towards the original then you can't appreciate the hype in this sequel.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:39 am to Ace Midnight
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Do we want to talk about a 58 - 59 year old O-6 (NOT a Mustang, a flyboy since age 22) hanging around, well, well, well after MRD?
Situations like that are rare but possible. Before the release of the film, some website did an interview with a rep from Navy Personnel Command an they confirmed that it is technically possible for Maverick to still be in the Navy after 30+ years.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:55 am to RollTide1987
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The fact that Goose knew immediately who Stinger was talking about during the arse chewing infers that they served under this admiral
or it infers that they are best friends, closer to brothers, and know about dumb shite each other has done.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:32 am to RollTide1987
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Situations like that are rare but possible. Before the release of the film, some website did an interview with a rep from Navy Personnel Command an they confirmed that it is technically possible for Maverick to still be in the Navy after 30+ years.
Lots of different ways to stay past a "mandatory" separation date.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:06 am to Ace Midnight
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I think the implication of the scandal being recited in a litany of Maverick's other transgressions suggests she couldn't have been any older than 20 and likely 18 or 19. I'm certain that's the way the scriptwriters want us to interpret it.
So, that brings us up to TGM. Shot in 2019, so we have to read the lovely Ms. Connelly as portraying a character in her mid-50s when she was an already youthful looking 48 - 49 at the time of filming.
I'm catching a bunch of grief in this thread - I LOVE these movies, but there is a dance around this casting that isn't comfortable. That's all I'm saying.
Bruh, you are HEAVILY reaching here.
The implication is that it was taboo to frick an Admiral's daughter. It had nothing to do with her age at the time, and honestly it's a little weird that you seem to be so attached to this theory. There's literally no reason to assume otherwise outside of "Jennifer Connelly's age in TG:M," which is asinine to begin with since she's an actress playing a fictional character that was barely referenced in the original movie.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:07 am to kciDAtaE
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It’s not and not arguable.
Oh it's definitely arguable. You must not venture to this board often...anything is arguable.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:14 am to CocomoLSU
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no reason to assume otherwise outside of "Jennifer Connelly's age in TG:M," which is asinine to begin with since she's an actress playing a fictional character
exactly.
unless y'all want to discuss Terry Silver fighting in Vietnam as an 8 year old that was best buddies with a 30 year old man at the time.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 11:15 am
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:17 am to Nutriaitch
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or it infers that they are best friends, closer to brothers, and know about dumb shite each other has done.
The way Goose said her name indicated shock, as if he was learning about the affair for the first time.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:42 am to RollTide1987
This movie sucked major dick.
And I say that as a fan of the original.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but this is mine.
And I say that as a fan of the original.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but this is mine.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:44 am to CocomoLSU
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honestly it's a little weird that you seem to be so attached to this theory.
I'm not "so attached" to anything.
Sure, the classic Hollywood tradition is to have a bunch of 28 to 30 year olds play high school kids (Grease, Alan Ruck in Ferris Bueller, Judd Nelson in Breakfast Club, etc.). They also tend to pair (much) older dudes with women. That's true of them in real life (Katie Holmes is 16 years younger than Cruise).
They're just in a box with the Penny Benjamin character. That's all I'm saying.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:44 am to RollTide1987
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The way Goose said her name indicated shock, as if he was learning about the affair for the first time.
:notsureifserious:
I always read it as if Goose was reminding Mav of just exactly who Stinger was referencing. As if Mav might have forgotten.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:57 am to CocomoLSU
The plot is cool.
---Don't get me wrong, I was surprised how much I like Maverick, but the plot is the practically the same as the first movie.
---Don't get me wrong, I was surprised how much I like Maverick, but the plot is the practically the same as the first movie.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:32 pm to CocomoLSU
I could have done with more jets, less love story. Still enjoyed the shite out of it.
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