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re: Top Gun: Maverick — just want to reiterate how…

Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:42 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:42 am to
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I think the implication of the scandal being recited in a litany of Maverick's other transgressions suggests she couldn't have been any older than 20 and likely 18 or 19.


As someone who is currently serving in the Navy, I'll play this game.

Dating the admiral's daughter when you yourself are serving under him/her is not illegal, however it is very unadvisable. The fact that Goose knew immediately who Stinger was talking about during the arse chewing infers that they served under this admiral, either in his capacity as the Carrier Strike Group commander or some other role that would have brought them into direct contact with him on a frequent basis.

While there is no UCMJ article or Navy regulation which would have prevented him from seeing Penny Benjamin, it definitely would be a bad look for the admiral and could lead to charges of favoritism or undue fraternization. Admiral Benjamin likely disproved of the match, told Maverick to stay away, but Maverick being Maverick, he likely ignored the admiral.

It's likely that Maverick's fling with Benjamin brought down unneeded heat on Stinger, who would have had to cover Maverick's arse. As he was venting his frustration with Maverick as CAG, Stinger probably brought up the Penny Benjamin thing to ram home the point that Maverick was a huge pain in his arse.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 7:44 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:47 am to
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Stinger probably brought up the Penny Benjamin thing to ram home the point that Maverick was a huge pain in his arse.



Without a doubt.

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As someone who is currently serving in the Navy, I'll play this game.


Do we want to talk about a 58 - 59 year old O-6 (NOT a Mustang, a flyboy since age 22) hanging around, well, well, well after MRD?

Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:02 am to
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The more I see it the more I think it deserves an argument for the best sequel of all time (not saying it is, just that it’s arguable)


It’s not and not arguable.
Posted by OKTiger83
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:14 am to
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There is a story about a SR71 Blackbird crash in mid air,


SR-71 Disintegrated at Mach 3.2

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:19 am to
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It’s not and not arguable.




Again, I love these films, but part of this is the overall drop in quality of Hollywood output over past 8 to 10 years. If you've been served sewage for years, then any edible meal is going to taste good.

However, I think it is arguable that Maverick is the best "stale" sequel of all time (think things like Texasville - 1990 sequel to 1971's Last Picture Show, or Color of Money - coincidentally Cruise - the 1986 sequel to 1961's The Hustler).
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 8:33 am
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:22 am to
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To say that Maverick is a “great movie” is wrong cause it’s not.
Beauty is in the eye of the holder. To say that Maverick is not a great movie is just as wrong.

To YOU it's not.

FYI, movies don't have to be "deep" in substance to be great.

Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44432 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:29 am to
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Very overrated



I'll never understand the hype for this movie. It was OK at best.
Posted by LSUalum2000
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
3716 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:35 am to
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I'll never understand the hype for this movie. It was OK at best.


The original Top Gun was probably my favorite movie growing up as a kid. I watched it so much I wore out 2 VHS tapes of it, so obviously the movie has always meant a great deal to me. Throw out all the perceived "flaws" in the movie, the way this story linked back 30 years was brilliant and fun. I enjoy Maverick just as much or more than the original.

I can understand that if you don't have the sentimental value towards the original then you can't appreciate the hype in this sequel.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71158 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:39 am to
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Do we want to talk about a 58 - 59 year old O-6 (NOT a Mustang, a flyboy since age 22) hanging around, well, well, well after MRD?



Situations like that are rare but possible. Before the release of the film, some website did an interview with a rep from Navy Personnel Command an they confirmed that it is technically possible for Maverick to still be in the Navy after 30+ years.
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:55 am to
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The fact that Goose knew immediately who Stinger was talking about during the arse chewing infers that they served under this admiral


or it infers that they are best friends, closer to brothers, and know about dumb shite each other has done.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30261 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:32 am to
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Situations like that are rare but possible. Before the release of the film, some website did an interview with a rep from Navy Personnel Command an they confirmed that it is technically possible for Maverick to still be in the Navy after 30+ years.

Lots of different ways to stay past a "mandatory" separation date.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:06 am to
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I think the implication of the scandal being recited in a litany of Maverick's other transgressions suggests she couldn't have been any older than 20 and likely 18 or 19. I'm certain that's the way the scriptwriters want us to interpret it.

So, that brings us up to TGM. Shot in 2019, so we have to read the lovely Ms. Connelly as portraying a character in her mid-50s when she was an already youthful looking 48 - 49 at the time of filming.

I'm catching a bunch of grief in this thread - I LOVE these movies, but there is a dance around this casting that isn't comfortable. That's all I'm saying.


Bruh, you are HEAVILY reaching here.

The implication is that it was taboo to frick an Admiral's daughter. It had nothing to do with her age at the time, and honestly it's a little weird that you seem to be so attached to this theory. There's literally no reason to assume otherwise outside of "Jennifer Connelly's age in TG:M," which is asinine to begin with since she's an actress playing a fictional character that was barely referenced in the original movie.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156610 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:07 am to
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It’s not and not arguable.

Oh it's definitely arguable. You must not venture to this board often...anything is arguable.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10923 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:14 am to
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no reason to assume otherwise outside of "Jennifer Connelly's age in TG:M," which is asinine to begin with since she's an actress playing a fictional character


exactly.

unless y'all want to discuss Terry Silver fighting in Vietnam as an 8 year old that was best buddies with a 30 year old man at the time.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 11:15 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71158 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:17 am to
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or it infers that they are best friends, closer to brothers, and know about dumb shite each other has done.



The way Goose said her name indicated shock, as if he was learning about the affair for the first time.
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5205 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:42 am to
This movie sucked major dick.

And I say that as a fan of the original.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but this is mine.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
95648 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:44 am to
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honestly it's a little weird that you seem to be so attached to this theory.


I'm not "so attached" to anything. I'm just pointing things out.

Sure, the classic Hollywood tradition is to have a bunch of 28 to 30 year olds play high school kids (Grease, Alan Ruck in Ferris Bueller, Judd Nelson in Breakfast Club, etc.). They also tend to pair (much) older dudes with women. That's true of them in real life (Katie Holmes is 16 years younger than Cruise).

They're just in a box with the Penny Benjamin character. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
95648 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:44 am to
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The way Goose said her name indicated shock, as if he was learning about the affair for the first time.


:notsureifserious:

I always read it as if Goose was reminding Mav of just exactly who Stinger was referencing. As if Mav might have forgotten.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14063 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:57 am to
The plot is cool.
---Don't get me wrong, I was surprised how much I like Maverick, but the plot is the practically the same as the first movie.

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72098 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:32 pm to
I could have done with more jets, less love story. Still enjoyed the shite out of it.
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