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Tomorrow Never Dies just might be the most underrated Bond movie...
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:26 pm
I feel like when this film came out in 1997, there was a lot of criticism about just how outlandish the plot was. For those of you who may not know, the film features Bond attempting to stop a crazed media mogul from starting a world war between China and the western powers for TV ratings. Fast forward almost 30 years, and it's absolutely hilarious just how relevant this film is.
Jonathan Pryce, clearly enjoying himself, chews up the scenery as the villainous Elliot Carver. Michelle Yeoh, in the prime of her physical beauty, plays the highly capable Wai Linn - a Chinese spy who, like Bond, is attempting to stop Carver. And let's not forget Teri Hatcher, whose career was just starting to get going on television (Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman) and film (2 Days in the Valley), making an appearance as Paris Carver. And finally you have the always reliable Götz Otto playing Stamper - Carver's right hand man and main muscle man.
I also think the film's title track by Sheryl Crow is among the franchise's better songs but maybe it's just me.
Jonathan Pryce, clearly enjoying himself, chews up the scenery as the villainous Elliot Carver. Michelle Yeoh, in the prime of her physical beauty, plays the highly capable Wai Linn - a Chinese spy who, like Bond, is attempting to stop Carver. And let's not forget Teri Hatcher, whose career was just starting to get going on television (Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman) and film (2 Days in the Valley), making an appearance as Paris Carver. And finally you have the always reliable Götz Otto playing Stamper - Carver's right hand man and main muscle man.
I also think the film's title track by Sheryl Crow is among the franchise's better songs but maybe it's just me.
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:35 pm to RollTide1987
Brosnan was a great Bond. Loved all his films
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:39 pm to RollTide1987
One of my favorite later Bond films actually. Loved Michelle Yeoh in this and thought Pryce made an interesting Rupert Murdoch. Stamper was great and Teri Hatcher was underused, but of course anytime you get a Vincent Schiavelli assassin scene you have to appreciate it.
While I liked the Sheryl Crow track I enjoyed the closing credits K D Lang a bit more. It was more Bond like in the Shirley Bassey vein and Lang can belt one out. Here's the opening credits with K D Lang's version.
While I liked the Sheryl Crow track I enjoyed the closing credits K D Lang a bit more. It was more Bond like in the Shirley Bassey vein and Lang can belt one out. Here's the opening credits with K D Lang's version.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:40 pm to RollTide1987
Yea that’s a good one. Young Michelle Yeoh was good in it too.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:02 pm to LanierSpots
quote:I under-appreciated him. Not anymore. He was the perfect Bond.
Brosnan was a great Bond. Loved all his films
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:07 pm to RollTide1987
Was a mediocre PS1 game
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:30 pm to RollTide1987
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 9:23 pm to RollTide1987
Like always, Bond and the enemy he goes up against is a great reflection of the time the movie was made.
The evolution of the Cold War and technological advancements, the 24 hour news cycle emerging as Tomorrow Never Dies was released, Spectre and cyber etc.
I grew up with Pierce as my Bond.
The evolution of the Cold War and technological advancements, the 24 hour news cycle emerging as Tomorrow Never Dies was released, Spectre and cyber etc.
I grew up with Pierce as my Bond.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:02 pm to theGarnetWay
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the 24 hour news cycle emerging as Tomorrow Never Dies was released,
And now, in the here and now, we have various billionaires owning and running different types of media…
We live in the age of the Bond villain.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:27 pm to RollTide1987
“The Empire Will Strike Back” is a great newspaper headline that was in this movie in the villain's paper
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:08 pm to theGarnetWay
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the 24 hour news cycle emerging as Tomorrow Never Dies was released
Had been around for a while already.
CNN started 24 hour cable news in 1980.
FOX news in 1996.
Between them we had Gulf War 1, and a few other things.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:13 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Remember, the great Ricky Jay also had a role in this.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:35 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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And now, in the here and now, we have various billionaires owning and running different types of media… We live in the age of the Bond villain.
Who could ever think that a foreign born billionaire who dabbles in rocketry, owns a large media company and uses his wealth to influence American politics would be a bad thing….
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:54 am to RollTide1987
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I ]feel like when this film came out in 1997, there was a lot of criticism about just how outlandish the plot was. For those of you who may not know, the film features Bond attempting to stop a crazed media mogul from starting a world war between China and the western powers for TV ratings. Fast forward almost 30 years, and it's absolutely hilarious just how relevant this film is.
Also, how absolutely dependent we had become on technology and how we would blindly follow it, even when it was wrong (and how nobody knew it was wrong), with the GPS that drew the Brit ship off course subplot.
You see a milder version of that today with people driving into water or off roads because their GPS told them to do it.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 12:55 am
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:59 am to lsusa
quote:Hilarious that they based the villain on Steve Jobs and Rupert Murdoch, then someone comes along to be a pastiche of that film pastiche.
Who could ever think that a foreign born billionaire who dabbles in rocketry, owns a large media company and uses his wealth to influence American politics would be a bad thing….
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:15 am to RollTide1987
It became the cool thing to shite on Pierce Brosnan. His Bond was awesome, and I enjoyed all the films.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:14 am to Jcorye1
and it starred the great Joe Don Baker - 1 of only 2 actors to ever play a major Bond Villain - and then a major Bond Ally.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:54 am to RollTide1987
Watched this movie recently and one quote stood out to me:
"Unlike the Americans, we choose not to get our news from CNN."
Bet that line will be scrubbed from any forthcoming re-releases.
"Unlike the Americans, we choose not to get our news from CNN."
Bet that line will be scrubbed from any forthcoming re-releases.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:56 am to theGarnetWay
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Like always, Bond and the enemy he goes up against is a great reflection of the time the movie was made.
They missed the boat on the weaponization of AI. As soon as I saw Dead Reckoning I thought this was a huge missed opportunity for Bond.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:34 am to PuertoRicanBlaze
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Unlike the Americans, we choose not to get our news from CNN
That's from goldeneye.
That lady was a really good M. Her and Bronsan were both great in all their movies.
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