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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S06E03 “Rock and Hard Place” Thread

Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:53 am to
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:53 am to
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Before Jimmy thought of "the valet scam" and using Huel, they were talking about mocking up another car to look like Howard's. So it's more than planting something, they want Howard's car to be seen somewhere or doing something.


Good point, I have no idea what they're up to other than they want his car seen in some type of scenario.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49479 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:54 am to
quote:

Do you want to be a friend of the cartel, or do you want to be a rat?


"Siempre, siempre soy amigo del cartel".

I've always been a friend to the cartel
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8179 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:00 am to
Lalo thought again. I think it's interesting that Saul and Kim think Lalo is dead and Gus knows he's alive.

Both of these opinions have to do a 180 real soon before or during early BB.

This means Saul, Kim, or both have to have another Lalo encounter. Gus almost certainly has to be responsible if Lalo is dead.

It can't be cops that kill Lalo or BB Saul would know because cops would take public credit.

It has to be a Gus plot, but how does Gus kill Lalo at this point without the cartel pointing the finger at him? They're already suspicious.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:03 am to
We see Wendy's motel in the preview for next week. That has to have something to do with Howard's car.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7200 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 4:55 am to
quote:

Lalo thought again. I think it's interesting that Saul and Kim think Lalo is dead and Gus knows he's alive.

Both of these opinions have to do a 180 real soon before or during early BB.

This means Saul, Kim, or both have to have another Lalo encounter. Gus almost certainly has to be responsible if Lalo is dead.

It can't be cops that kill Lalo or BB Saul would know because cops would take public credit.

It has to be a Gus plot, but how does Gus kill Lalo at this point without the cartel pointing the finger at him? They're already suspicious.

The obvious thing, maybe too obvious, would be Kim killing Lalo but getting mortally wounded in the process.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104451 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 5:32 am to
Nacho

Talk about a powerful performance on your way out. What an amazing scene to end the episode. Wow.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27159 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 6:49 am to
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Yeah I meant it was understood that he was going to die that day.
After the Nacho centric opening act, when it took 20 minutes before Saul or Kim appeared, I knew this would be El Nacho's last time on the show.

I was holding out faint hope that Mike would help him "disappear via vacuum man" after the final call to his dad.

Then again, this is the BB/BCS Story line where all the real anti-heroes get to die.
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 6:51 am
Posted by tonic
Member since Oct 2009
439 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 6:51 am to
My theories are holding up so far.

Nacho not surviving, check. Amazing end to his story.

My other theory is that Kim is destined for the vacuum repair service. The odds of that happening just got better.

Vince has done it again, BCS is a masterpiece.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27159 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 6:57 am to
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Vince has done it again, BCS is a masterpiece
The slow burn of start of BCS (The Jimmy and Chuck story) as he ramps up to the convergence of BCS with BB is amazing. The tone has shifted 180 degrees to where last night show could have been in BB.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33254 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:08 am to
can someone remind me the main cartel boss that Nacho had the gun to, is he in BB?

Why didnt he just shoot him?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89586 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:42 am to
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someone remind me the main cartel boss that Nacho had the gun to, is he in BB?


yes

Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
23605 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Why didnt he just shoot him?

If Nacho shoots Bolsa, the cartel kills his dad.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6393 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:09 am to
I hope to see the actor that played Nacho in more stuff. I thought he was terrific in this show. Great episode.
Posted by Rum Ham
Member since Feb 2012
225 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:09 am to
So as far as jimmy is concerned, he ends up in the BB timeline thinking lalo and nacho are both alive. So it’s fair to assume that he never finds out about nacho’s death or lalo’s assumed death (Gus/Mike are the only ones that know lalo is alive and Gus told hector that the Salamanca name dies with him in BB…safe to assume Gus kills Lalo before this thing wraps up).
Posted by muttenstein
Member since Oct 2012
3009 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:13 am to
Damned good episode. RIP Nacho. Did you hear how many times Hector shot him after he was dead?

I still wouldn't be surprised if they still kill his father. As Nacho said, they are psychos, and I could see it happening just because they're crazy mad.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89586 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:14 am to
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BB timeline thinking lalo and nacho are both alive. So it’s fair to assume that he never finds out about nacho’s death or lalo’s assumed death (


didn't kim tell saul in this episode that lalo died in mexico? From the info that other lawyer lady told her?
Posted by muttenstein
Member since Oct 2012
3009 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:22 am to
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didn't kim tell saul in this episode that lalo died in mexico?


Yes
Posted by Rum Ham
Member since Feb 2012
225 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:23 am to
Yes, but in BB, when Walter and Jessie take Saul into the desert, Saul first says it wasn’t him, it was Ignacio….so you can assume Saul finds out that nacho double crossed. Then he asks if lalo sent them, so you can assume that Saul doesn’t know that lalo is dead.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
6512 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:24 am to
He’s assuming that Saul never finds out about Lalo’s upcoming actual death (presuming that’s what is about to occur).
Posted by Rum Ham
Member since Feb 2012
225 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:32 am to
I don’t think Gus would tell Hector that the Salamanca name dies with him if he didn’t know for sure lalo was dead. That meant something to gus. I’m assuming that gus kills lalo and Saul doesn’t know about it.
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