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re: They killed Pixar when they took out John Lasseter
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:55 am to Corinthians420
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:55 am to Corinthians420
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We just did this topic twice
OMLandshark has made this thread probably 10 times. He’s obsessed with the idea that Pixar has collapsed and also thinks Wall-E is the Mona Lisa.
If you try and argue the point that he is much older now which is at least part of the reason why a movie like Luca doesn’t appeal to him the way Toy Story did 30 years ago he won’t stand for it.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:06 am to Tiger1242
Luca, Soul, and Onward were hurt a lot by the pandemic. Those were pretty good films that I think would have been better guided to the finish line had Lasseter stuck around and the world got to see them the way they were intended.
But then you had:
Turning Red (a real WTF movie from the story, characters, and animation)
Lightyear (politicized whether by its own fault or not)
Elemental (hurt by the response to lightyear and the best of these 5 films although still just okay)
Inside Out 2 (the exact same story as Inside Out)
Elio (another WTF disaster)
All of these films seemed to be misguided either from the start or at the finish line. Leadership was the biggest problem.
The upcoming lineup has been gutted of the originals because they’ve been so bad.
Hoppers looks like another flop. The synopsis: After a group of scientists invent a way to "hop" human minds into lifelike robotic animal bodies, a teenager named Mabel uses their technology to embody a robotic beaver and thwart a construction company's plot to destroy the local animal habitat.
Then you have sequels to Toy Story, Incredibles, and Coco. I’m not convinced Gatto gets made.
But then you had:
Turning Red (a real WTF movie from the story, characters, and animation)
Lightyear (politicized whether by its own fault or not)
Elemental (hurt by the response to lightyear and the best of these 5 films although still just okay)
Inside Out 2 (the exact same story as Inside Out)
Elio (another WTF disaster)
All of these films seemed to be misguided either from the start or at the finish line. Leadership was the biggest problem.
The upcoming lineup has been gutted of the originals because they’ve been so bad.
Hoppers looks like another flop. The synopsis: After a group of scientists invent a way to "hop" human minds into lifelike robotic animal bodies, a teenager named Mabel uses their technology to embody a robotic beaver and thwart a construction company's plot to destroy the local animal habitat.
Then you have sequels to Toy Story, Incredibles, and Coco. I’m not convinced Gatto gets made.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 10:10 am
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:32 am to ell_13
I’m with you on that. I think Pixar still makes some really good movies but the hit rate is way lower. It used to be every movie they made was awesome.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:41 am to ell_13
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More than 50 people have followed Mr. Lasseter to Skydance from Disney and Pixar, including Ms. Holmes (“Secret of the Wings”), whom he hired to direct “Luck.” The screenplay for “Luck” is credited to Kiel Murray, whose Pixar and Disney writing credits include “Cars” and “Raya and the Last Dragon.” Mr. Lasseter and Ms. Holmes hired at least five more Disney-Pixar veterans for senior “Luck” crew jobs, including the animation director Yuriko Senoo (“Tangled”) and the production designer Fred Warter (“A Bug’s Life”).
I'm not really trying to argue your point because you might be right, but is this the source for the talent they took was mainly white males? Because of the four people mentioned, two are white women, one is an Asain woman, and one white male.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:43 am to CAD703X
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You're getting down voted but you're correct
I didn't downvote him, but he's not getting downvoted because he wrong. He's right. He's getting downvoted because he talks about this same exact thing weekly
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:33 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:My original point was based off of news/rumors posted to the DisBoards forum. The article posted is anecdotal at best when it comes to my assessment of the people who have left because of the culture and not simply because Lasseter is gone.
I'm not really trying to argue your point because you might be right, but is this the source for the talent they took was mainly white males? Because of the four people mentioned, two are white women, one is an Asain woman, and one white male.
However, the fact that these 3 women followed him should be another vote of confidence toward his ousting being egregious.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 11:34 am
Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:18 pm to OMLandshark
Cars was fine for what it was. Probably my kids favorite franchise when they were little.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:00 pm to St Augustine
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Luca, Soul, and Onward
My family loved all of these. Onward was great and came out literally the week the world shut down.
I really liked Inside Out 2. It made over 1.3B worldwide and with two daughters, it was great.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:44 pm to dallastiger55
Think you quoted the wrong guy there.
We liked those as well.
We liked those as well.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:51 pm to St Augustine
I dont think anything they’ve put out in the past 5 years is as good as Toy Story, Up, Walle or Coco, but I have enjoyed everyone of the movies i’ve watched.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:57 pm to St Augustine
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Think you quoted the wrong guy there.
my bad lol. I have a habit of just replying to the last comment.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:20 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I didn't downvote him, but he's not getting downvoted because he wrong. He's right. He's getting downvoted because he talks about this same exact thing weekly
Are you telling me this?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:36 pm to OMLandshark
quote:If you are talking original IP, yes.
he last truly great movie they’ve made is Coco,
Inside Out 2 was pretty good.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:51 pm to Roaad
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Inside Out 2 was pretty good.
Although I liked Anxiety being the antagonist and thought it was fine, it was too repetitive of the original.
Inside Out 3 has been greenlit and it better be a major departure from the first two, namely making Pride the main antagonist. It’s the obvious villain and could be one of Pixar and Disney’s best if they do it correctly.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:12 am to OMLandshark
Wild Robot from Dreamworks is better than anything Pixar has done in a looooong time.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:06 am to OMLandshark
Those who DV really are clueless.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:42 am to ell_13
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Disney investigated and found that some subordinates occasionally felt him to be a tyrant.
If you have been in a position of authority it is your job to be a tyrant. At least in the sense that your employees have to be challenged and told to do things that they don't want to do or would do differently if they had control.
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More than 50 people have followed Mr. Lasseter to Skydance from Disney and Pixar
Which seems like evidence of him being appreciated by many employees in spite of some people occasionally disagreeing.
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Skydance hired lawyers to scrutinize the allegations against Mr. Lasseter and privately concluded there was nothing egregious
I can't imagine what this type of review would have found if it were Jobs, Gates, or Musk Difference making CEOs tend to be flat out assholes.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:47 am to molsusports
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Which seems like evidence of him being appreciated by many employees in spite of some people occasionally disagreeing.
I’d say behind Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki that John Lasseter is the greatest animator who has ever lived. They should appreciate him because he’s a true visionary and a genius.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:23 am to OMLandshark
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Inside Out 3 has been greenlit and it better be a major departure from the first two
Well, it doesn't have to, because it's going to make a billion dollars regardless of who the villain is.
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namely making Pride the main antagonist. It’s the obvious villain and could be one of Pixar and Disney’s best if they do it correctly.
Come on. Of all the unrealistic movie ideas thrown out there, this might be the most unrealistic ever. PRIDE? The villain in a Disney movie, the company that is as pro gay as any company out there, is going to make a villain as pride, is kind of ridiculous. Surely you know that.
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