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re: The Walking Dead Season Finale
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:32 am to Napoleon
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:32 am to Napoleon
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Yet Cocomo still feels like Enigma ruined the whole show by saying he thought Jenner said what he did.
Completely wrong and inaccurate. Do a search on Enigma in TWD threads and you'll see the problem I have with him.
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:34 am to coloradoBengal
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The biggest twist away from that so far, is the "everyone is infected" thing. And that was defintely spoiled on this board by the comics readers.
They will tell you that it is an inherent point in all zombie media though (I've seen lots of Z movies and don't recall it once...it's always been the whole "if you get bit.." thing).
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:37 am to Napoleon
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Lets be honestm there was only two things he could have said.
Well no, he could have said anything really. He could have said that Rick was immune, or that somebody was already infected in their group, or that the virus was dying off, or anything.
The problem that Coco has with Enigma, is that he used his knowledge from the comics to come to his conclusion about Jenner's secret.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:38 am to CocomoLSU
There are a bunch of p*ssies in this thread.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:40 am to Solo
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There are a bunch of p*ssies in this thread.
When somebody gets pissed because a comic reader revealed something that was a cliff hanger moment from season one that took all of season 2 to reveal, I don't really consider that a pussy reaction.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:44 am to Solo
That's fine. Leave this thread for us pussies and go make one for assholes.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:46 am to Salmon
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Well no, he could have said anything really. He could have said that Rick was immune, or that somebody was already infected in their group, or that the virus was dying off, or anything.
I remember at the time thinking that he could've told him that Andrea was infected (because she had all but bathed in her zombie sister's blood). But I really thought it was that Lori was preggo (or that it wasn't Rick's).
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:46 am to coloradoBengal
So will any speculation for the next season even be allowed? Or are people going to think anything said is a potential spoiler?
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:48 am to Napoleon
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So will any speculation for the next season even be allowed? Or are people going to think anything said is a potential spoiler?
Speculation from non comic book readers is always welcome. It isn't speculation if one of them comments though
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:49 am to coloradoBengal
I knew the prison was coming before that shot because of these threads, again minor spoilers like that don't bother me but some people like to be totally surprised.
I just find the "ok guys just wait" to be more annoying if anything. Yeah we get it man you read the comic and it was super awesome
I just find the "ok guys just wait" to be more annoying if anything. Yeah we get it man you read the comic and it was super awesome
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:49 am to Napoleon
Speculation is what we want. Just don't draw conclusions from what has been read in the comics or other spoiler type sites. Is it really that hard to grasp. Talk all you want about the prison, but stupid comments like, OMG its the prison, just wait for the awesome badassness to come, are uncalled for.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:51 am to CocomoLSU
enigma is just a douche because he'll present a very specific "theory" and then throw in a "I'm just speculating like the rest of you" as a nice frick you
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:51 am to Napoleon
We have done plenty of season 3 speculation. I would say if you have read the comics, you should refrain from doing so, if you have any respect for the fans that haven't.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:51 am to CocomoLSU
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I only post in show discussion on here, and yet that information was disseminated by the "we've read the comics and know what's coming in the future" crowd.
Yes, this has happened, an yes, it sucks, but would you still be upset if I honestly speculated and turned out to be right? For instance, I have never even see the cover of one of the comics, but I believe that Merle is the leader of Randall's group. If that turns out to be true, am I guilty of posting a spoiler? It arose from honest speculation, but if I'm right, it will be tainted for you on the show, since the possibility is in your head already.
This happened a lot with Lost. Obviously there wasn't public source material, but the Internet is huge, and some people were bound to have good guesses on certain things. Do you consider those to be spoilers?
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:53 am to coloradoBengal
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We have done plenty of season 3 speculation. I would say if you have read the comics, you should refrain from doing so, if you have any respect for the fans that haven't.
Just stay in the spoiler thread where that belongs would make things so much easier. That is all that is being asked
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:56 am to CaptSpaulding
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Yes, this has happened, an yes, it sucks, but would you still be upset if I honestly speculated and turned out to be right? For instance, I have never even see the cover of one of the comics, but I believe that Merle is the leader of Randall's group. If that turns out to be true, am I guilty of posting a spoiler? It arose from honest speculation, but if I'm right, it will be tainted for you on the show, since the possibility is in your head already.
Of course its not a spoiler. If you're honest, and you haven't read the comics, its a guess like anyone elses'. And I don't need any comic fans to give me shite about "Well, that didn't happen in the comics, so I was just speculating". Its a process of elimination some times, and comic readers are way way ahead of non comics readers in that process.
Merle leading Randall's group is good guess. I don't think there is any way we've seen the last of Merle. But, based on how things played out... I don't know that we will ever see Randall's group either. Merle could be leading a group "like" Randall's (I'm sure there's plenty). Or he could be somebody else, but I feel he is going to turn up in the future in a proper "Holy SHITE!" moment.
Some of us are speculating just based on how we know shows get written. Thankfully, I've been wrong numerous times. I love that. I love that I'm wrong in my speculation. It means there are original elements.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:57 am to HeadyMurphey
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Speculation from non comic book readers is always welcome. It isn't speculation if one of them comments though
Who's who?
And how is it not speculation if no one really knows where the show is going.
What I don't get is, when a movie based on a book comes out, everyone compares it the two. People will go out and read the book. People will discuss what was different or similar. Like how dark Jurassic park was supposed to be. Is that movie spoiled if one mentions dinosaurs escaped the island in it? No because the movie never followed the book.
TWD very loosely follows the book. I don't get why the Fire and Ice crowd has no problem reading 5,000+ pages to get into the story, while TWD crowd can't read a couple of 20 page comics.
This is the only time I have ever seen this phenomenon, of something being based off of writing, and the people who read the original story are taboo.
This post was edited on 3/20/12 at 10:00 am
Posted on 3/20/12 at 10:00 am to CaptSpaulding
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For instance, I have never even see the cover of one of the comics, but I believe that Merle is the leader of Randall's group. If that turns out to be true, am I guilty of posting a spoiler?
This happened a lot with Lost. Obviously there wasn't public source material, but the Internet is huge, and some people were bound to have good guesses on certain things. Do you consider those to be spoilers?
Guessing correctly =/= spoiler. Knowing what is coming (either specifically or generally) and posting that for others = spoilers.
Like I said, you can guess correctly..obviously that's fine. But if you continue to guess correctly, people will start to wonder if you're really just magically getting everything right (which is what happened with Enigma).
And Lost isn't the same thing. Sure, there were all kinds of theories (some that proved true and others that did not), but there wasn't some specific piece of work that Lost was based on. Guessing and theory is completely different from knowing what's coming and ruining it for people.
ETA: If someone who has read the comic comes in here like this though:
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I believe that Merle is the leader of Randall's group
OMG Just wait...
Or:
You nailed it.
Then yeah, that would suck.
This post was edited on 3/20/12 at 10:03 am
Posted on 3/20/12 at 10:00 am to Napoleon
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Who's who?
And how is it not speculation if no one really knows where the show is going.
What I don't get is, when a movie based on a book comes out, everyone compares it the two. People will go out and read the book. People will discuss what was different or similar. Like how Dark Jurassic park was supposed to be. Is that movie spoiled if one mentions dinosaurs escaped the island in it? No because the movie never followed the book.
TWD very loosely follows the book. I don't get why the Fire and Ice crowd has no problem reading 5,000+ pages to get into the story, while TWD crowd can't read a couple of 20 page comics.
This is the only time I have ever seen this phenomenon, of something being based off of writing, and the people who read the original story are taboo.
I brought this up in the other thread:
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I don't understand how everyone wants to read a book before a movie comes out, but not for a tv show.
Does this make sense to anyone else?
I don't get it either. I know 80% of people going see Hunger Games this weekend have read the books.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 10:00 am to Napoleon
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TWD very loosely follows the book. I don't get why the Fire and Ice crowd has no problem reading 5,000+ pages to get into the story, while TWD crowd can't read a couple of 20 page comics.
This is the only time I have ever seen this phenomenon, of something being based off of writing, and the people who read the original story are taboo.
We are into the story. And we don't get why comics fans just can't shut up about the comics in the non-spoiler threads.
Holy crap, you mean you can't just go someplace else or even in another thread labeled spoiler and talk about it? Seriously? Fine! frick it. Just chase away everyone that doesn't want that kind of speculation and then you can make empty threads and talk amongst yourselves (which you could have done anyway, but chose not to. )
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