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re: The Walking Dead Season 11 Thread (No AMC+ Spoilers)

Posted on 2/16/22 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by SpillwayRoyalty
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 1:02 pm to
I quit watching when a CGI lion helped defeat the bad guys...
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:16 pm to
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You didn't like it? I found one scene in particular to be pretty absurd in how it ended.


The last scene. We’ll see how they get there, but it looks to me like they’re trying too hard to set up a spin-off rather than what the characters would actually do.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 8:01 pm to
Okay, here we go. let's see how it plays.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:58 pm to
This show is still on?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:56 am to
I liked the resolution with the reapers, and Maggie going all Punisher on them. I knew Alden was going to die from youtubers, but his character was just not very interesting, so it wasn't a very heartbreaking moment for me.

Another time jump seems irritating, as does daryl wearing the stormtrooper armor, but I'm sure it has something to do with the blonde chick, who appears in the trailer for next week.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104807 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 7:20 pm to
I'm finally caught up. Man, this show has really gone downhill fast.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63419 posts
Posted on 4/10/22 at 7:37 pm to
bump for the mid-mid-season finale.
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Maggie prepares to defend Hilltop against Hornsby. Meanwhile, Hornsby hires Leah to kill her.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:10 am to
I've followed this show this season. Lot of hate but it's actually pretty solid again. The last show had good pacing, great tension, and some solid tension building soundtrack. It's actually been pretty good.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:38 am to
Yeah, it was crap for a while, but this season is actually pretty good.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63419 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 6:46 am to
I think a lot of it has to do with the writers knowing that there's an end now, and how they're going to get there. They no longer have to string the audience along to make the show last as long as possible.

I was hoping that Leah would be around for a little longer, though. Daryl killing her like that seemed a bit unceremonious.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:10 am to
Missed the seasons where the Leah character was introduced so didn't know who she was. I'm sure it would have made that episode better.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:45 am to
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Missed the seasons where the Leah character was introduced so didn't know who she was. I'm sure it would have made that episode better.



it was a covid filler episode when they just focused on 1-2 chars at a time. just know they have a love interest and they separated bc of how much he wanted to find rick and then years later she's a reaper in conflict with maggie. it was meh overall, but most importantly he got Dog from Leah.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 4:59 pm to
The reaper and collmonwealth story lines have some major positives. But there are so many plot holes and things that just don't make sense.

The commonwealth would have special forces and kill units. 50,000 citizens. At least a standing military of 10k. That would include artillery, air forces, mobile armored units. They would be constantly attacked by rogue groups and be highly efficient at wipping out these small groups. They would have to be to survive. Our current groups wouldn't stand a chance.

Also, the commonwealth doesn't seem that bad. You have to sacrifice and contribute to live in a society. I don't understand Maggie's POV. Or why they couldn't at least negotiate a peace pact and trade agreement. There would be no reason for the commonwealth to let an aggressor exist in close proximity. She should be more pragmatic..
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 6:36 pm to
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The commonwealth would have special forces and kill units. 50,000 citizens. At least a standing military of 10k. That would include artillery, air forces, mobile armored units. They would be constantly attacked by rogue groups and be highly efficient at wipping out these small groups. They would have to be to survive. Our current groups wouldn't stand a chance.



guerilla warfare is effective. the only reason why the negan group had a chance is because maggie came to help, and aaron+gabe were double agents. and the recent skirmish with negans group was more of a covert recovery party not a war party. commonwealth is attempting to befriend assimilate and/or wipe out groups as they resist. seems smarter than just balls to the wall war if you can use their resources by avoiding a direct upfront war (like they got from taking kingdom alexandria hilltop oceanside).

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Also, the commonwealth doesn't seem that bad. You have to sacrifice and contribute to live in a society. I don't understand Maggie's POV. Or why they couldn't at least negotiate a peace pact and trade agreement. There would be no reason for the commonwealth to let an aggressor exist in close proximity. She should be more pragmatic..



thats kind of the point of it to seem innocuous but is really an authoritarian regime. theres a caste system, yumiko's brother took to secrecy to live a different life. large lists of people get disappeared for spreading dissent. debts and jail time arbitrarily commuted only if you have some special skill/mission to benefit those in power. Sebastian sends civilians on suicide missions and threatens family for compliance. theyre kinda similar to negans saviors group just more way developed and less openly warlord-like.

maggie did start relatively pragmatic and nonaggressive. it started out peacefully with assistance to help rebuild. she just wasnt quick to join and assimilate. she only leaned to aggression after she started to see things werent right from darryl, the wounded messenger, and how hornsby always sidesteps maggies 'but whats the catch' questions. slowly maggie recognizes their leadership to be more and more malevolent.

Posted by sledgehammer
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 6:49 pm to
I’m digging this season too as long as they don’t kill off any more main characters besides Carol. She should’ve died 11 seasons ago. It looks like everyone from Oceanside is about to get slaughtered which will be unfortunate though.
My theory is that the Commonwealth will be brought down from within. Eugene and co. are building quite the resistance plus they control the press.
When and how do Michone and Rick fit into the final 8 episodes!
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 7:08 pm to
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I’m digging this season too as long as they don’t kill off any more main characters besides Carol


theres only 1 part to the season left before the alleged movie is supposed to take place. king just avoided a cancer death. that means he's gonna die soon bc they just made him safe.

darryl, maggie, deaf chick, lydia, negan are all untouchables.


i dont see how a couple main characters won't be killed off. hornsby is now an active aggressor, milton is gonna go apeshit on dissenters. any of the other commonwealth viva la resistance characters are on the chopping block. the press is going to be target #1 by commonwealth authority. milton will know about the newcomers and be suspicious, especially because 2 are the new press when theres suddenly an expose on her abuse.


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When and how do Michone and Rick fit into the final 8 episodes!



pretty sure rick wont be in the final 8 outside of a kind of glimpse for michonne finding him teaser for the movie.
I still wanna know more about the army michonne found and how that plays in.

I doubt the commonwealth falls this season, thats movie fodder.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 7:26 pm to
Great points and a lot to think about. Democracy seems to be a luxury though and authoritative regimes would be the norm in times like these. They have to be more direct and reactionary. Has to be a strong leader. Milton doesn't seem that bad. There are bad circumstances. But the survivors would constitute of some pretty bad people. I just think it would be a lot more layered. Negan alluded to it before. He did it, cause it worked. He never should have lost, especially to Rick's weak group.

Maggie always seemed hostile to me. She is trying to hold onto her power and believes she should be the leader. But she keeps failing her people. It's hard to see her side..
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:09 pm to
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milton is gonna go ape shite on dissenters

I don’t know man. I think Milton eyes are finally opening to the corruption within. He’s already killed those two soldiers who were with Sebastian and he’s had that deep conversation with his sister who has turned. Besides, he’s romantically involved with Princess who opposes the authoritarian regime. He could become a key resistance leader if he so chooses that path.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 9:13 pm
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
10494 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:18 pm to
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Maggie always seemed hostile to me. She is trying to hold onto her power and believes she should be the leader. But she keeps failing her people. It's hard to see her side..


They’re having Maggie turn into Negan. She won’t get all the way there and they’ll make a big deal about her deciding not to.

As for wrapping this all up. If you’ve watched the other two shows, CRM is a big deal. And they’re nationwide. No way they don’t have communication/interactions with the Commonwealth.

I predict somehow the core group gets control of the commonwealth and the movies are going to be a Maggie/Rick lead commonwealth verses CRM.

With the Texas people showing up to help like it’s a battle in The Last Kingdom.

It’ll be over the top and ridiculous and end up looking laughably like the end of The Postman.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 12:48 am to
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I don’t know man. I think Milton eyes are finally opening to the corruption within. He’s already killed those two soldiers who were with Sebastian and he’s had that deep conversation with his sister who has turned Besides, he’s romantically involved with Princess who opposes the authoritarian regime. He could become a key resistance leader if he so chooses that path.


thats not milton, thats mercer. milton is the female governor, parent of sebastian. milton is the one getting exposed by the underground resistance press. I do agree with your opinion of mercer though. he can either make or break the resistance.
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