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re: The official Interstellar thread (spoilers)
Posted on 11/8/14 at 7:27 pm to Champagne
Posted on 11/8/14 at 7:27 pm to Champagne
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The ending of the movie implies that Cooper uses the wormhole to rescue A. Brand. The movie says nothing to the audience about the wormhole being closed at that point in the story, but, filmwriter Jon Nolan says it is.
Even if it is closed, it is strongly implied they have the tech to make it there easily now. If he was going to die, why would Cooper rebuild his robot pal just to kill him off again?
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Posted on 11/8/14 at 7:59 pm to theunknownknight
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Even if it is closed, it is strongly implied they have the tech to make it there easily now. If he was going to die, why would Cooper rebuild his robot pal just to kill him off again?
Not really. They imply they have the tech to make it to another planet or solar system, certainly not galaxy. As far as we know, the planet where Brand is on is on the literal opposite side of the universe. No way Cooper can make it there on his own if the wormhole is closed.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:17 pm to OMLandshark
But he sent his daughter the solution to all 5 dimensions, they can do what they want
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:17 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
They imply they have the tech to make it to another planet or solar system, certainly not galaxy.
I got the opposite implication. In fact, a central part of the plot was solving an equation that allowed the entire population to leave earth and travel to the other galaxy where the new planet existed.
She solved the equation.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:57 pm to theunknownknight
I would have preferred this movie to end with MM eyes closed in the singularity.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:01 pm to theunknownknight
Why would the humans have set up their uber space station around the orbit of Saturn, near the location of a now-nonexistent wormhole?
I don't want to even entertain that thought anymore. It wasn't in the movie, so it wasn't in the movie.
I don't want to even entertain that thought anymore. It wasn't in the movie, so it wasn't in the movie.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:02 pm to Cosmo
quote:No, he sent his daughter the solution to gravity.
But he sent his daughter the solution to all 5 dimensions, they can do what they want
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:05 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
I got the opposite implication. In fact, a central part of the plot was solving an equation that allowed the entire population to leave earth and travel to the other galaxy where the new planet existed.
She solved the equation.
No, the equation she solved was gravity, not light speed. That was the problem more than anything, and that's why Michael Caine declared his life a failure that he thought it was impossible to solve.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:06 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Exactly. She solved the equation of gravity, which enabled the design+building of the space station in which the humans were living and McConaughey was hospitalized at the end. Unless I'm mistaken, they said that station was located in the orbit of Saturn (at least, that's where they picked up McConaughey), where the wormhole was located.
She solved the equation.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:07 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:This is true.
they said that station was located in the orbit of Saturn (at least, that's where they picked up McConaughey), where the wormhole was located.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:08 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Not quite right. Caine thought he had solved the gravity equation, and that the solution was useless. Chastain explains that he had only partly solved it, though, and that the complete solution would give them what they needed.
that's why Michael Caine declared his life a failure that he thought it was impossible to solve.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:11 pm to drizztiger
quote:I thought so. So why would they park the human civilization-sustaining space station near a non-existent wormhole?
This is true.
It just makes no sense. This is my last post on this topic, I promise! In my mind, the wormhole was there, and McConaughey was traveling through it to Hathaway's planet/colony. The end.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:46 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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Caine thought he had solved the gravity equation, and that the solution was useless.
Umm no, he solved the equation long before the mission, but not the second half that was deemed impossible. When Cooper sent the coordinates;, that's when she got it
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:49 pm to Patrick_Bateman
what if the wormhole was there when they left earth and headed to saturn for the journey and it disappeared right before they arrived
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:02 pm to OMLandshark
One of us (not sure which) has it slightly wrong.
My understanding is this: Caine thought he had solved the equation, years ago. They say this in the movie, unless I'm very mistaken. I don't think he was familiar with a second part.
This was Caine's lie. That he knew the solved equation (as he knew it) was useless and that Earth's humans were a lost cause, yet he gave everyone hope anyway.
When Murph has her epiphany, she says something to the effect that, "He only partly solved it." As in, prior to that, she was under the impression that Caine had solved the gravity equation and that it was useless.
ETA: I may have misread your post.
My understanding is this: Caine thought he had solved the equation, years ago. They say this in the movie, unless I'm very mistaken. I don't think he was familiar with a second part.
This was Caine's lie. That he knew the solved equation (as he knew it) was useless and that Earth's humans were a lost cause, yet he gave everyone hope anyway.
When Murph has her epiphany, she says something to the effect that, "He only partly solved it." As in, prior to that, she was under the impression that Caine had solved the gravity equation and that it was useless.
ETA: I may have misread your post.
quote:That's true. He hadn't solved it completely. But, as far as Caine knew, he had solved the gravity equation completely.
he solved the equation long before the mission, but not the second half that was deemed impossible.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:14 pm to Patrick_Bateman
Correct. And then Cooper junior-et solved it to travel time as a dimension - leading to wormholes.
Where else are all those pilots going who were constantly leaving the space station at the end?
Where else are all those pilots going who were constantly leaving the space station at the end?
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:16 pm to Patrick_Bateman
Cooper sent Murph the data that Tars collected from the singularity which was deemed impossible to retrieve. This data related to how time is viewed. Caine's character omitted time as part of his equation, thus he thought the solved equation was worthless. By adding time in and the data from the singularity to the equation, their problem was solved.
I think those new small ships on the space station take advantage of whatever the new solved equation tells them.
I think those new small ships on the space station take advantage of whatever the new solved equation tells them.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:20 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
After thinking about it, if Jonathan Nolan believes Cooper was killing himself, he doesn't understand his own story
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:24 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Well, if you believe Jonathan Nolan, they were going nowhere.
Where else are all those pilots going who were constantly leaving the space station at the end?
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:58 pm to Patrick_Bateman
Anyway, he was the writer. A writer's word is shite in hollywood. Directors have final artistic say and producers have final say overall.
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