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re: "The Odyssey" Discussion Thread: News, Reviews, Box Office, etc. $639 Mil WW Total
Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:29 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:29 pm to Fun Bunch
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Absolutely no one cared, and it was a good movie
Except the few usual suspects that are also in this thread. Every time someone would comment about the film and mention Gordon they would respond "That's not Gordon." Get it? Because he's black he's not Gordon. It's funny. But I think somehow Sam Jackson is actually Nick Fury in the MCU.
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:38 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Except the few usual suspects that are also in this thread. Every time someone would comment about the film and mention Gordon they would respond "That's not Gordon." Get it? Because he's black he's not Gordon. It's funny. But I think somehow Sam Jackson is actually Nick Fury in the MCU.
Prove any of this.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:40 pm to Scruffy
You are both incorrect. Oppenheimer was the first film to win Best Picture under the DEI requirements. They went into effect for films eligible for the 96th Oscars and every studio knew what would be required for eligibility in 2023.
You have to meet 30% from underrepresented groups in 2 out of 4 categories.
Standard A: On-Screen Representation, Themes, and Narratives
Focuses on the casting of underrepresented groups, main storylines, and ensemble casts.
Standard B: Creative Leadership and Project Team
Focuses on hiring underrepresented individuals for behind-the-camera leadership and crew positions.
Standard C: Industry Access and Opportunities
Requires the film’s distribution or financing company to offer paid internships, apprenticeships, and training opportunities for underrepresented groups.
Standard D: Audience Development
Focuses on having in-house senior executives from underrepresented groups on the film’s marketing, publicity, and distribution teams.
Oppenheimer met the requirements with its crew and executives. You can still meet those with those two groups and have the whitest cast you can imagine.
You have to meet 30% from underrepresented groups in 2 out of 4 categories.
Standard A: On-Screen Representation, Themes, and Narratives
Focuses on the casting of underrepresented groups, main storylines, and ensemble casts.
Standard B: Creative Leadership and Project Team
Focuses on hiring underrepresented individuals for behind-the-camera leadership and crew positions.
Standard C: Industry Access and Opportunities
Requires the film’s distribution or financing company to offer paid internships, apprenticeships, and training opportunities for underrepresented groups.
Standard D: Audience Development
Focuses on having in-house senior executives from underrepresented groups on the film’s marketing, publicity, and distribution teams.
Oppenheimer met the requirements with its crew and executives. You can still meet those with those two groups and have the whitest cast you can imagine.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:42 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:I mean like most things, this is pretty performative so you have a lot of avenues to meet the requirements (behind the scenes, industry access, audience development). Hell the cast requirements are included women and ethnic groups. They wouldn’t not let a legit best picture front runner not be included in some way.
Oppenheimer's eligibility requirements were tied to its 2023 release.
It would not be eligible today
Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:49 pm to Esquire
quote:I am incorrect in its application, but I’m going to be pedantic and point out that Oppenheimer was the last without the requirement.
You are both incorrect. Oppenheimer was the first film to win Best Picture under the DEI requirements. They went into effect for films eligible for the 96th Oscars and every studio knew what would be required for eligibility in 2023.
quote:Anora was the first winner to require them.
The Academy announced the standards in 2020. They phased in over two information-gathering years and became a best picture requirement for the 2024 eligibility year, which is why “Anora” — Sean Baker’s $6 million indie dramedy that walked off with five Oscars at the 97th ceremony — was the first winner to compete under them, followed by Paul Thomas Anderson’s “One Battle After Another.”
Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:50 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I expect Helen to have a small role in the movie, as she does in the story. I still plan on seeing and enjoying the movie, but this is a discussion forum, so I have discussed the casting.
I think Lupita is pretty and a good actress. Helen of Troy is just defined by her specific physical appearance in the story, and even moreso in Greek lore and other texts, and it's a weird choice.
I think it equally weird if I see a white actor playing Othello.
Do we want the Hunchback of Notre Dame have good posture? Ahab with both legs and no scars? Richard III in great physical shape? Dracula with a tan?
All that to be said, I'll probably enjoy this movie. I love Nolan. I'm mostly worried about the "modern" dialogue being taken way too far e.g. "My dad is coming home".
I think Lupita is pretty and a good actress. Helen of Troy is just defined by her specific physical appearance in the story, and even moreso in Greek lore and other texts, and it's a weird choice.
I think it equally weird if I see a white actor playing Othello.
Do we want the Hunchback of Notre Dame have good posture? Ahab with both legs and no scars? Richard III in great physical shape? Dracula with a tan?
All that to be said, I'll probably enjoy this movie. I love Nolan. I'm mostly worried about the "modern" dialogue being taken way too far e.g. "My dad is coming home".
Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:57 pm to Philzilla2k
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Prove any of this.
The Batman came out five years ago, this isn't something I bookmarked. I couldn't give two shits if you don't believe it. 
Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:59 pm to wesfau
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This is so weird.
What's weird is that a claim was made that had zero merit, then you crawfished away. It's a GREEK myth. Nolan played into the 'historical accuracy' of his movie, and it ends up being freaking Hamilton on screen.
Had the movie been true to the source material, and not some feminist screed posing as a translation, Greece would have been front and center in hosting an event. Stop pretending you don't understand this.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:05 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
And yeah, don't think I didn't notice the 'feminine' energy being put out here for this movie.
Look familiar?
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:08 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Stop pretending you don't understand this
I truly don't. I've never seen this story of geo-located insistence on a movie premier.
I repeat, weirdest melt about this whole thing.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:12 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I looked up the threads. Most people didn't care.
Someone pointing out that Eartha Kitt played Catwoman before is pretty funny though considering she also played...
Helen of Troy (for Orson Welles)
Someone pointing out that Eartha Kitt played Catwoman before is pretty funny though considering she also played...
Helen of Troy (for Orson Welles)
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:15 pm to wesfau
Repeat it all you want, it's not weird to have a premier stop in the actual country where the THOUSANDS YR OLD STORY originated. 
Again, how smooth must your brain be to not understand that?
Again, how smooth must your brain be to not understand that?
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:16 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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it ends up being freaking Hamilton on screen.
This does not appear to be the case at all
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:18 pm to Scruffy
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I am incorrect in its application, but I’m going to be pedantic and point out that Oppenheimer was the last without the requirement.
I think we just have to agree to disagree. Everything I’ve read said they went into effect for the 96th Oscars, which Oppenheimer won. If they started with Anora I don’t see why they wouldn’t say 97th.
It’s behind a paywall but this NYT article explains how Oppenheimer met them. NYT
Here is a quote from the Academy website.
quote:
For the 94th Oscars (2022) and 95th Oscars (2023), submitting a confidential Academy Inclusion Standards form will be required for Best Picture consideration, however meeting inclusion thresholds will not be required for eligibility in the Best Picture category until the 96th Oscars (2024). For the 96th Oscars (2024), a film must meet TWO out of FOUR of the following standards to be deemed eligible:
Oscars.org
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:20 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:The one I always like to bring up is Scarlett Johansson playing Major Makoto Kusanagi in the live action Ghost in the Shell.
I think Lupita is pretty and a good actress. Helen of Troy is just defined by her specific physical appearance in the story, and even moreso in Greek lore and other texts, and it's a weird choice.
I think it equally weird if I see a white actor playing Othello.
Do we want the Hunchback of Notre Dame have good posture? Ahab with both legs and no scars? Richard III in great physical shape? Dracula with a tan?
She is pretty and a good actress, but sometimes casting choices are simply retarded.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:23 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
You're right. It wouldn't be weird to have a big event in Greece for this movie.
Getting weirdly crunchy about the lack of said event is what's weird.
Getting weirdly crunchy about the lack of said event is what's weird.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:35 pm to wesfau
Some random neckbeard YouTuber must have made a video about it, so it’s now a must have opinion and become an important talking point.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:46 pm to Fun Bunch
Actually, it's
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:48 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:49 pm to drizztiger
Oh, this random neckbeard?
He's made a TON of videos on this.
He's made a TON of videos on this.
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