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re: The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power S1, Episode 3 Thread | Amazon | Available Now
Posted on 9/11/22 at 3:46 pm to Bronc
Posted on 9/11/22 at 3:46 pm to Bronc
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Abandoning the argument already I see lol
I responded directly to your post with this reply. Deflect much
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Anyways, this whole side argument is stupid and not even entertaining, you can get back to whining about the show.
But yet you continue to respond which is why it is entertaining.
The show had promise especially with the budget Amazon was willing to invest. Now after 3 episodes it no longer has the luster of high expectations and unfortunately has become disappointing for so many they at least tuned in with hope like myself.
Now you will come back and attack me personally so be it, but I am only stating what so many are as well and not on this website but globally with the reviews and declining viewership. Numbers that actually have value and are factual not based on your opinion.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 3:48 pm
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 3:52 pm to TideWarrior
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There is no need to condense the timeline to do so. Islidur, Gandalf and whoever they are introducing at inaccurate points in time have nothing to do with the creation of the rings.
But Isildur has everything to do with the final battle with Sauron.
The only other way is an huge time
Jumps. Which they could have done or they change the timeline.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 3:52 pm to SammyTiger
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I dont Love the theory but I’ll admit the evidence is there to support it.
It’s going to be weird if she shows up and KNOWS Halbrand is Sauron and they just don’t listen to her vs being just distrustful of Annatur.
I wish they would spend more time following the Sauron story arc than promoting this version of Galadriel. It would make for such a great series.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 3:57 pm to SammyTiger
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But Isildur has everything to do with the final battle with Sauron.
Yes
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The only other way is an huge time
Jumps. Which they could have done or they change the timeline.
Five seasons planned could of easily spaced it out better. No need to introduce him or his family so early on. That would have made for an epic season 5 with the War of the Last Alliance with the final episode when he lost the ring.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 3:57 pm to TideWarrior
I don’t really give a shite what the numbers look like my man, this isn’t my money, and the general public often gets it wrong with shows(see all of The Wire, Rome, Deadwood, Black Sails, or more recent shows like Warrior, Halt and Catch Fire, Mr Robot), while shows like The Walking Dead remained a ratings juggernaut for years despite being trash past basically episode 1. But the numbers we have right now aren’t very conclusive of anything.
Amazon reported 25 million worldwide day one viewers. Samba TV, which is derived exclusively off smart TV views and ONLY covers the US market, so it leaves off people in other countries and anyone accessing through Roku, AppleTV, laptops, iPads, phone casting, cable(yes many cable companies now provide access to streaming through their services FYI) shows much worse numbers.
People trying to draw sweeping conclusions off the little we have so far are simply reaching.
Amazon reported 25 million worldwide day one viewers. Samba TV, which is derived exclusively off smart TV views and ONLY covers the US market, so it leaves off people in other countries and anyone accessing through Roku, AppleTV, laptops, iPads, phone casting, cable(yes many cable companies now provide access to streaming through their services FYI) shows much worse numbers.
People trying to draw sweeping conclusions off the little we have so far are simply reaching.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:05 pm to Bronc
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Amazon reported 25 million worldwide day one viewers. Samba TV, which is derived exclusively off smart TV views and ONLY covers the US market, so it leaves off people in other countries and anyone accessing through Roku, AppleTV, laptops, iPads, cable(yes many cable companies now provide access to streaming through their services FYI) shows much worse numbers.
People trying to draw sweeping conclusions off the little we have so far are simply reaching.
Not sure what Samba TV is but the numbers that have to be concerning I see is why did viewing go down by 25% episode 2 after just showing ep 1, why were the 25 viewers already 99% subscribers(no influx of new), and why did almost 90% of current prime subscribers not watch or yet have watched it as of this weekend any episode.
They also heavily targeted Gen Z and Gen Y I saw somewhere and missed that mark as well.
Maybe the numbers will grow and its to a great finish but I doubt it is anywhere what they were hoping for currently.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:06 pm to TideWarrior
Please source that, cause I think you are pulling from the Samba source I just mentioned.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:17 pm to TideWarrior
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That would have made for an epic season 5 with the War of the Last Alliance with the final episode when he lost the ring.
My rah man introduce the family, have him become a leader, have him win a war, have him lose the Ring all in 1 season.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:34 pm to Bronc
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Please source that, cause I think you are pulling from the Samba source I just mentioned.
I just pulled up Samba and the numbers are the same as I have seen on other sites in regards first weekend numbers of 1.8 domestic so maybe where they extracted their numbers. Numbers based on current subs and who is watching came from different sites like Forbes and other news outlets.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:36 pm to SammyTiger
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introduce the family, have him become a leader, have him win a war, have him lose the Ring all in 1 season.
That is what I am afraid of. Hopefully they will slow things down.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:48 pm to TideWarrior
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That is what I am afraid of. Hopefully they will slow things down.
I think It’s why they are introducing Isildur now. To give him time to develop and let us see Him before he cutting off fingers.
I doubt the time are forget this season.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:56 pm to SammyTiger
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I think It’s why they are introducing Isildur now. To give him time to develop and let us see Him before he cutting off fingers.
I doubt the time are forget this season.
They still have 4 more seasons to develop his character.
So far the story arc involving Arondir and Adar are the best in my opinion. I want to see more of that.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 5:58 pm to TideWarrior
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I just pulled up Samba and the numbers are the same as I have seen on other sites in regards first weekend numbers of 1.8 domestic so maybe where they extracted their numbers. Numbers based on current subs and who is watching came from different sites like Forbes and other news outlets.
Do you have some links on that? I’m asking cause all I find are Amazon reports and Samba, and if that is where they are deriving things than it’s hard to draw much out at this point.
Amazon’s numbers were worldwide, and very good, but also a small snapshot, and Samba’s numbers leave a lot of lurking variables and only cover certain smart tvs, and only smart tvs that users opt into Samba tracking. For instance we had two of our three tvs that streamed the first two episodes, one each night. But I opted out all of our LG OLED TV’s from Samba tracking(offered to users under an update/or set up agreement to help “track” issues and provide better targeted advertisements, which, keep that shite away)
I don’t think either are bad data, but it is limited and incomplete.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:53 pm to TideWarrior
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So far the story arc involving Arondir and Adar are the best in my opinion. I want to see more of that.
Yeah I really want to know who Adar is.
I want To know who meteor man is too, hopefully he and Nori ditch the other Hobo-bits soon and get into some shite.
I also am interested in the dwarves and what’s going on there.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 4:53 am to ell_13
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But we are talking about Numenor. And it’s history which we know is just kings. It’s getting as obvious as the “female charge” in Endgame. Diversify but don’t patronize the audience either. It becomes a joke.
LOL, that would be true except for Ancalime, Vanimelde, and Telperien.
Miriel seems to be Queen Regent in her father's stead while he is in the tower for being a Faithful which I think Miriel will turn out to be as well. Miriel should have been the 4th Queen upon her father's death (she was his only child) but Pharazon married her against her will and took the scepter himself, screwed up everything letting the White Tree die, and was the last king of Numenor.
I think they are sidestepping the fact that Miriel was never talked about as queen with her just ruling for her father. But Numenor absolutely had queens.
I had hoped we could get at least 50% discussion about actual Tolkien within all the back and forth but that seems a fleeting dream. There is a lot of interesting stuff being brought up even if you don't like where it is going or where it came from.
Does anyone think Halbrand being a smith leads to the Sauron theory? I still hope he is the Witch King as Ringwraiths are just cool.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 5:25 am to Obtuse1
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Does anyone think Halbrand being a smith leads to the Sauron theory? I still hope he is the Witch King as Ringwraiths are just cool.
I don't think he's Sauron, but one of the ring wraiths if not the Witch King himself. The reveal that he's the heir to the throne of a people that were sworn to Morgoth definitely lends itself to that being his ultimate fate in my opinion. It looks like the Witch Kings original identity is unknown, so that could be him.
The whole "this symbol is a map" reveal was dumb, but I enjoyed all the stuff around that reveal like the library and the talk of the king being one of the faithful.
I'm glad that Anarion is confirmed. When there was no casting announced for him and they announced that they were making up a sister I worried he would get completely sidelined, but maybe he'll just show up in the later seasons. With the sister getting into the builders guilds, I'm guess she's going to help her brothers build Gondor or Elendil build Arnor. I'd lean Gondor since that's what we've seen on screen.
Galadriel continues to be the worst part of this show, and a large part of that is because it's extremely hard for me to reconcile the Lady of Lothlorien with this brash and bratty version. If she was someone other than Galadriel she'd still be unlikable, but I wouldn't be nearly as annoyed and perplexed. I understand that they can and hopefully do want to move her from the prideful and headstrong warrior to the wise lady over the course of the series, but they could very easily screw it up with the quality of writing they've shown so far for her.
I thought I would hate the harfoots, and I definitely still think the show doesn't need them, but Nori is charming enough on screen that they are growing on me. I noticed at the end when they were saying they were gonna bring the stranger with them that they all had blue shirts on, and he can't wear rags forever. Blue Wizard confirmed?
Posted on 9/12/22 at 5:45 am to TigerNutwhack
Think Halbrand may be Theo's father?
Think the sword Theo has is what the Orcs are looking for?
Is it the sword Sauron used in the War of Wrath? I think it was from the Southlands.
The question I have is if he is Alatar or Pallando where is the other one? Did the other Blue Wizard fall to Middle Earth where you can see the constellation?
Think the sword Theo has is what the Orcs are looking for?
Is it the sword Sauron used in the War of Wrath? I think it was from the Southlands.
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I noticed at the end when they were saying they were gonna bring the stranger with them that they all had blue shirts on, and he can't wear rags forever. Blue Wizard confirmed?
The question I have is if he is Alatar or Pallando where is the other one? Did the other Blue Wizard fall to Middle Earth where you can see the constellation?
Posted on 9/12/22 at 6:23 am to Obtuse1
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Think Halbrand may be Theo's father?
Think the sword Theo has is what the Orcs are looking for?
Is it the sword Sauron used in the War of Wrath? I think it was from the Southlands.
I hadn't even connected those things, but you're probably right on all accounts.
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The question I have is if he is Alatar or Pallando where is the other one? Did the other Blue Wizard fall to Middle Earth where you can see the constellation?
That's probably a good guess if, as I suspect and hope, the stranger is a Blue Wizard. The writers may also be taking both types of blue wizards, the original fallen version that started secret cults and the later version that subverted Sauron on the east. That could make for some decent stories if their first few seasons are somewhat rivalries or antagonistic, if done well.
Early quote on Blue Wizards
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"I think that they went as emissaries to distant regions, east and south... Missionaries to enemy occupied lands as it were. What success they had I do not know; but I fear that they failed, as Saruman did, though doubtless in different ways; and I suspect they were founders or beginners of secret cults and "magic" traditions that outlasted the fall of Sauron."
Latter quote on the Blue Wizards
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"Their task was to circumvent Sauron: to bring help to the few tribes of Men that had rebelled from Melkor-worship, to stir up rebellion... and after his first fall to search out his hiding and to cause dissension and disarray among the dark East... They must have had very great influence on the history of the Second Age and Third Age in weakening and disarraying the forces of the East... who both in the Second Age and Third Age otherwise have... outnumbered the West."
There's a ton that could be mined from both of those quotes that would be perfectly in-line with Tolkien's vision on them, and it allows new stories to be told instead of having to force square peg already established characters into a round hole of television adaptation. If the writers can pull it off, which is somewhat doubtful.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 6:33 am to BluegrassBelle
Damn, do all of these threads turn into Bronc pretending he’s not racist by calling everyone else racist?
Posted on 9/12/22 at 6:43 am to Obtuse1
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Think Halbrand may be Theo's father?
Think the sword Theo has is what the Orcs are looking for?
Oh wow.
The blood oath that Halbrand's ancestors took to Morgoth? That's why Theo's blood goes into the blade and makes it smoke.
Halbrand isn't going to be a Ringwraith; it's Theo, his son, who will become one.
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