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The Hobbit
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:33 am
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:33 am
Been a long time since I've watched the trilogy. I really enjoy the universe Tolkien created. It's amazing.
I remember The Hobbit being slightly silly sort of in parts. I remember not liking it quite as much as TLOTR.
But I've been watching the trilogy being reacted to so I could see the movies again without watching the entire trilogy.
Man, it was a whole better than I remember. It was a bit silly to start with having the dwarves arrive at Bilbo's and all that.. all good... but as you get to the second movie, it really hits a good stride. Battle of the Five Armies is damn good with the cool arse fight when Galadriel, Saruman, and Elrond fighting the Nazgul and then first seeing Sauron. Damn well done.
I think The Hobbit is much better than I remember.
I remember The Hobbit being slightly silly sort of in parts. I remember not liking it quite as much as TLOTR.
But I've been watching the trilogy being reacted to so I could see the movies again without watching the entire trilogy.
Man, it was a whole better than I remember. It was a bit silly to start with having the dwarves arrive at Bilbo's and all that.. all good... but as you get to the second movie, it really hits a good stride. Battle of the Five Armies is damn good with the cool arse fight when Galadriel, Saruman, and Elrond fighting the Nazgul and then first seeing Sauron. Damn well done.
I think The Hobbit is much better than I remember.
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:41 am to i am dan
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It was a bit silly to start with having the dwarves arrive at Bilbo's and all that
One of the best parts of the movies, straight out of the book.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:49 am to i am dan
the Hobbit is definilty lighter in tone and theme. it’s a fairy tale/ folk tale.
it got published because the publishers son really liked it.
One of the funniest things i’ve ever seen on the internet was a tweet along the lines of:
Tolkien writing the LOTR trilogy as a sequel to Hobbit is like EB White writing a book about how Stewart Little Nephew killed the devil.
it got published because the publishers son really liked it.
One of the funniest things i’ve ever seen on the internet was a tweet along the lines of:
Tolkien writing the LOTR trilogy as a sequel to Hobbit is like EB White writing a book about how Stewart Little Nephew killed the devil.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:05 am to i am dan
3 movies out of a book half the size of the 3 LOTR books
terrible and the CGI was awful
terrible and the CGI was awful
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:25 am to i am dan
The cartoon version of the Hobbit was better than the movie version of the Hobbit. Fact.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:32 am to i am dan
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I remember The Hobbit being slightly silly sort of in parts.
The Hobbit is much more light hearted than LOTR and has some silliness to it. The movies are darker than the book. Even LOTR has some silliness/lighthearted aspects that they didn't include in the movies.
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It was a bit silly to start with having the dwarves arrive at Bilbo's and all that.. all good...
One of the few parts that they trilogy got right. I remember being in the theatre and thinking o wow, they are going to do this right. That scene had word for word parts from the book and the song was great. Even the cleaning of the plates was done well but I'm sure that's part of the silliness you're talking about. That was one of about four parts that they got right for the entire trilogy.
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I think The Hobbit is much better than I remember.
They're just not good imo. Everything about them is just off and barely has a Hobbit feel to it. Just too serious of a tone and a story stretched way too thin. 3 movies out of one book that is 1/3 of a size of any of the LOTR books. Awful CGI "villain". Way way way too much CGI in general and not sure why they couldn't even at least make Azog non CGI. Even the dwarves didn't look like dwarves. They had some with five o'clock shadows and made them look more like a man in stature than dwarves outside of a few of them.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:41 am to i am dan
Didn’t hate them and agree anything in that universe is fun, but they missed a lot of the lightheartedness of the book.
And one movie would’ve been fine, instead of a trilogy.
And one movie would’ve been fine, instead of a trilogy.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:51 am to i am dan
They are terrible, the fan edit that combines into a single movie is the only somewhat watchable way to do it.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:06 pm to i am dan
I hate it. The dumb argument that The Hobbit had a different tone, which it did, is negated by heads being cut off.
Multiple heads being cut off.
The movie was cartoonish. The forced love plot is stupid even for Hollywood. I saw you in jail so now I will risk everything because we fell in love within 20 seconds.
I hate it. Honestly couldn't hate it more considering how much I loved LOTR and didn't mind the changes for those movies.
Multiple heads being cut off.
The movie was cartoonish. The forced love plot is stupid even for Hollywood. I saw you in jail so now I will risk everything because we fell in love within 20 seconds.
I hate it. Honestly couldn't hate it more considering how much I loved LOTR and didn't mind the changes for those movies.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:08 pm to j1897
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e terrible, the fan edit that combines into a single movie is the only somewhat watchable way to do it
Where is this at?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:12 pm to i am dan
Probably hitting on what’s already been said but there were certainly some good parts:
- The first 40 minutes captured the book perfectly.
- Bilbo and Thorin were very well cast
- I was worried how silly a talking dragon would look but the scene between Bilbo and Smaug was exceptional and felt just like the book. As did the Gollum scene.
- The Misty Mountains dwarf theme was amazing, I don’t know why they stopped using it after the first film.
Other than that, there was plenty of disappointment.
The love story just showed it should’ve never been a trilogy.
I was really looking forward to the Battle of the Five Armies itself. But not only was the CGI just kind of meh but it came off as too goofy even by the series’ standards (Using pigs, goats, and a moose as mounts). Plus the trolls using the brick helmet to crash into a wall or being blinded and ridden like a steed was also too silly.
As was that knock off goofball Grima.
- The first 40 minutes captured the book perfectly.
- Bilbo and Thorin were very well cast
- I was worried how silly a talking dragon would look but the scene between Bilbo and Smaug was exceptional and felt just like the book. As did the Gollum scene.
- The Misty Mountains dwarf theme was amazing, I don’t know why they stopped using it after the first film.
Other than that, there was plenty of disappointment.
The love story just showed it should’ve never been a trilogy.
I was really looking forward to the Battle of the Five Armies itself. But not only was the CGI just kind of meh but it came off as too goofy even by the series’ standards (Using pigs, goats, and a moose as mounts). Plus the trolls using the brick helmet to crash into a wall or being blinded and ridden like a steed was also too silly.
As was that knock off goofball Grima.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:15 pm to i am dan
I recently read the books and my take away was:
The dwarves are raging assholes and that it’s very episodic and would make a better show than movie.
The dwarves are raging assholes and that it’s very episodic and would make a better show than movie.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:29 pm to i am dan
The Hobbit is meant as a quaint fairy tale book for children.
TLOTR is an epic saga.
The 2 shouldn’t be told in the same manner.
TLOTR is an epic saga.
The 2 shouldn’t be told in the same manner.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:55 pm to Purple Spoon
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Where is this at?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:01 pm to i am dan
As I said in the Rings of Power thread, it sucked and is a good candidate for a remake. Hollywood loves remaking good movies. Why not correct this abomination?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:03 pm to rebelrouser
Makes you wonder how del Toro would have done with the source material if he stayed on. Also, was the studio involvement the reason he bailed?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:19 pm to i am dan
I like that song the dwarves sing at the beginning.
youtube link
After watching this youtube recommended dwarf metal videos. It's midgets singing metal songs about mining. I listen to it while working out now. I belong in the mines.
youtube link
After watching this youtube recommended dwarf metal videos. It's midgets singing metal songs about mining. I listen to it while working out now. I belong in the mines.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:21 pm to i am dan
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Battle of the Five Armies is damn good with the cool arse fight when Galadriel, Saruman, and Elrond fighting the Nazgul and then first seeing Sauron.
Is this an extended cut thing we don't see in the theatrical release? I never saw this scene.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:18 pm to LSUPERMAN
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Makes you wonder how del Toro would have done with the source material if he stayed on.
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While the scripts for del Toro’s Hobbit were nearly done, the decision was made to rework the story from the ground up, as Jackson felt the scripts weren’t the Hobbit stories he wanted to tell as a director. So, with production beginning soon after, Jackson, Boyens and Walsh were still finishing scripts during the shoot. This led to a fairly messy production process, with lots of improvisation and ad-libbing on-set. Couple that with the decision to split The Hobbit into three films rather than the planned two, and the result was a real mixed bag of a Middle-Earth trilogy.
Movieweb. What could go wrong?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:28 pm to i am dan
You can find fan cuts online turning the trilogy into one pretty solid movie.
Peter Jackson let them go crazy, but he knew there were certain scenes he had to get right.
Peter Jackson let them go crazy, but he knew there were certain scenes he had to get right.
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