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re: The Force Awakens trailer confirmed; Official ingame thread
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:38 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:38 pm to Fun Bunch
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The frick? What crack are you smoking.
Original Trilogy. Skip prequels unless you really, really feel like it, and only after you've watched the OT.
Anything else makes me heavily question someone.
I'd at least read the books. They are great and go a long way in really giving a lot of details that the movies skip.
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:41 pm to Darth_Vader
Rey lives on an outer rim deserted planet...basically by herself. Come on baw.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:44 pm to UncleBlazer
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Han didn't. He went everywhere and didn't know.
Han knew the Jedi once existed but until he met Obi-Wan, thought they were extinct. He was born on Corellia almost 30 years before the Battle of Yavin. He would have been about 11 years old when Order 66 went out. And considering he was from Corellia which at that time was a core member of the Republic, unless he had zero exposure to anything, including he Holonet, he had to know of the existence of the Jedi.
Han as an 11 yr old kid on Corellia not knowing of the existence of the Jedi, especially considering the Clone Wars were raging at that time, would be like an average 11 yr old boy in the U.S today not knowing the US Special Forces exist.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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I'd at least read the books. They are great and go a long way in really giving a lot of details that the movies skip.
The novels based on the movies are fantastic. At least Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith anyway. I never read the novel for the Phantom Menace.
I will say that I'm not sure they're canon at this point since they include scenes that were either deleted from the final film or left out entirely. Shaak Ti's death is an example of something that happens in the book that was actually retconned with The Force Unleashed. Now neither is canon, but you get the point.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:48 pm to BulldogXero
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The novels based on the movies are fantastic. At least Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith anyway. I never read the novel for the Phantom Menace.
You need to get and read the Phantom Menace. I'd also get Darth Plagueis as well. both of these books do soooo much to really give the background of what lead to the ultimate rise of the Sith. Until you've read these two books, you won't have a true understanding of how a lot of the Star Wars story ties together.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:49 pm to Darth_Vader
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You need to get and read the Phantom Menace. I'd also get Darth Plagueis as well. both of these books do soooo much to really give the background of what lead to the ultimate rise of the Sith. Until you've read these two books, you won't have a true understanding of how a lot of the Star Wars story ties together.
None of those books are canon
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:50 pm to BulldogXero
I think that most people forgot that a high level Imperial officer basically insinuated that the followers of the force were crazy while in the same room as Darth Vader. Very few people knew of the Force.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:50 pm to Darth_Vader
Darth plagius is just ok so far. there's a lot to like but so much of it falls flat. And it uses the M word way too much.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:53 pm to BulldogXero
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None of those books are canon
Phantom Menace is one of the movies so it's for sure canon. AS for Darth Plagueis, unless they jsut take the whole story and throw it out all together, it's got to stand. I son't want to go into detail and give away anything to those who've never read it, but Darth Plageuis is the one that makes the whole Star Wars story we know possible. Without him, there's no Star Wars.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:54 pm to Darth_Vader
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I may be wrong, but I got a sense from what Han was saying in the trailer that 30 years after the death of Vader & Sidious, the Jedi and Sith both have sort of passed into legend. Notice how the told them "it was all true, the Dark Side and the Jedi". It's almost like he's telling them something they thought was just fairy tales is actually true.
That was my take away as well.
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But now that I say that, I'm not sure how anyone could not know that at least the Jedi were once real since it was only a little over a generation ago that there where thousands of them living at the very heart of the galaxy in a huge temple and they were highly public figures.
Vader was thought to be the last of his kind in the original movie. It's not far fetched that after empire there were no other major force users. Especially if Luke went into seclusion. Furthermore, just because there had been a great Jedi Temple, it's plausible that people on other planets could view some of the history simply as fantastical stories.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:55 pm to NWarty
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My son was asking me if I was crying. I had a tear and I don't give an eff if I did.
I had a tear as well. It has been a long time. They killed our leaders and slowed the progression of a better society the moment they crashed their plane into our great beacon of freedom. They are terrorist rebel scum and nothing will stop us now. We will finish what they started. The Empire has awoken!
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:56 pm to SundayFunday
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1) Chick may be Lukes daughter since shes seemingly alone and comes from nothing. Either luke put her in hiding or she may be no one special.
This is what I was thinking, but she actively questions Han, who would be her father. No way that's the case.
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2) Black guy is a ner generation of non clone, clones and has no purpose after the fall of the empire
No, he's just a regular guy drafted to be a Stormtrooper. It's what the prequels fricked up on, and is the sequel's effort to try and make up for it.
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3) Luke is touching R2D2 at the same time those storm troopers arrive and wipe out who he's with, Possibly a group of jedi he is trying to train. Obviously the bad guys find out. Maybe he's pulling a "Youre my only hope" like the first movie.
Absolutely. I agree.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:58 pm to UncleBlazer
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Luke is in hiding because he fears he is so powerful he could be seduced by the dark side. There is a 0% chance Luke turns to the dark side.
Not necessarily. He'll just be the Yoda figure and train them in the next movie. I think Luke will be the cliff hanger to the movie.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:58 pm to VOLhalla
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I think that most people forgot that a high level Imperial officer basically insinuated that the followers of the force were crazy while in the same room as Darth Vader. Very few people knew of the Force.
Very few knew of the nature of the force, but the existence of the Jedi was common knowledge at least until right after the Clone Wars. And as for the Imperial Officers in A New Hope, many of them had been officers in the Republic Navy & Army during the Clone Wars and had served under the command of Jedi who served as generals in the Grand Army of the Republic.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:58 pm to Darth_Vader
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Phantom Menace is one of the movies so it's for sure canon.
I own Darth Plagueis and need to finish it, and I think most of the pre-Phantom Menance EU material should left relatively alone.
That doesn't change the fact that at any moment, a scene in Rebels or one of the new films won't alter the events in that book in at least some small aspect.
As for The Phantom Menace, the only things that are canon are the movies, TCW, Rebels, and the EU post-reboot. The Phantom Menace novel I'm sure contains scenes that were not included in the movie. They do explain a lot though, even if those answers were no longer as rock solid as they once were.
Read the Revenge of the Sith novel, and you'll see that Dooku let Anakin win with the intent of being captured by the Republic not murdered. Sidious also let Windu win because he knew Anakin was on his way. Can they take that into an entirely different direction someday? Yes. Will they? I don't know.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:59 pm to Napoleon
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part of me was hoping Luke had rebuilt the Jedi order. Now it looks that likely he became secluded like the other masters.
Or the Empire killed so many Force conscious people, that there was almost no one to recruit.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:05 pm to boXerrumble
Anyone else think that was the greatest trailer they've ever seen? Ever?
I can't fricking wait for this movie to come out.
I can't fricking wait for this movie to come out.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:05 pm to Bmath
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Vader was thought to be the last of his kind in the original movie. It's not far fetched that after empire there were no other major force users. Especially if Luke went into seclusion. Furthermore, just because there had been a great Jedi Temple, it's plausible that people on other planets could view some of the history simply as fantastical stories
I do know that in the Star Wars galaxy they have this sort of glaxywide internet/TV feed they call the Holonet. This is like a CNN for the entire galaxy, even reaching out to parts of the outer rim. And during the Clone Wars there was an endless stream of news hailing the heroics of Jedi knights like Anakin & Obi Wan. In fact these two in particular had gained high celebrity status by the time of the Battle of Coruscant. Remember in Revenge of the Sith when Gervious called Obi-Wan the "Negotiator"? He was calling him that to mock him because that's the nickname the press on the Holonet had given him. Likewise, Anikin was known as The hero without Fear". They were literally superstars to most of the galaxy until Oder 66 went out.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:07 pm to Breesus
T2 trailer was pretty awesome.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:07 pm to Darth_Vader
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I may be wrong, but I got a sense from what Han was saying in the trailer that 30 years after the death of Vader & Sidious, the Jedi and Sith both have sort of passed into legend. Notice how the told them "it was all true, the Dark Side and the Jedi". It's almost like he's telling them something they thought was just fairy tales is actually true.
But now that I say that, I'm not sure how anyone could not know that at least the Jedi were once real since it was only a little over a generation ago that there where thousands of them living at the very heart of the galaxy in a huge temple and they were highly public figures. I could see the average person not knowing that the Sith were still around only 30 years ago since Sidious never revealed his (or Vader's) real identity to the public. But the Jedi were very well known.
You're kind of proving my point: No one believes in the Force. They think the Jedi and Sith as a whole are largely a myth, at least from the Force sense. Random people from all over the galaxy are awakened to the Force's presence and quickly realize the Force is real. The Force awakens in order to balance itself out from the great purge. I'm just thinking a large portion of the Galaxy just thought the Jedi were badasses that were wiped out and nothing more, and the Force is a mere myth.
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