re: The Force Awakens trailer confirmed; Official ingame thread

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Luke was the one who reached out and touched R2D2. Look at the hand.

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Yeah, was I the only one who immediately got that?

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But I stand by the overall plot on what "The Force Awakens" means. I think I was wrong on Rey being a Jedi or a Padawan before the start of the film, but it seems to me that the Force consciously does a mass awakening and amplifies its power, which leaves more Force Conscious people. Kylo Ren I think is one of those who was awakened, but was already obsessed with the Force and knew a lot about it before the Awakening. Now he's just the biggest bad arse in the galaxy for having got it.

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I may be wrong, but I got a sense from what Han was saying in the trailer that 30 years after the death of Vader & Sidious, the Jedi and Sith both have sort of passed into legend. Notice how the told them "it was all true, the Dark Side and the Jedi". It's almost like he's telling them something they thought was just fairy tales is actually true.

But now that I say that, I'm not sure how anyone could not know that at least the Jedi were once real since it was only a little over a generation ago that there where thousands of them living at the very heart of the galaxy in a huge temple and they were highly public figures. I could see the average person not knowing that the Sith were still around only 30 years ago since Sidious never revealed his (or Vader's) real identity to the public. But the Jedi were very well known.

I understand that. It just didn't work visually or thematically.it simply looked silly and I don't think they even work at all. They aren't trying to kill each other in those duels. There's no tension.

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Ok, so it's been a really long time since I watched the Star Wars movies(and I'm not even sure I watched all of the last trilogy).


So I'm gonna watch all of them again before the premiere so I can know what's going on. What order? Start from when they were released or by episode number.

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Start with one and go in order all the way to six. That's the only way to do it.

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Start with one and go in order all the way to six. That's the only way to do it.

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The frick? What crack are you smoking.

Original Trilogy. Skip prequels unless you really, really feel like it, and only after you've watched the OT.

Anything else makes me heavily question someone.

I think she's crying over the black guy getting fricked up by Kylo Ren in the snowy forest

Just got in on fandango app. 3 tix to 7pm showing on the 17th. Christmas coming early!

You sound like a sharp.

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Luke didn't. That was 20 years later.

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That's a good point. But keep in mind that he was in a very remote backwater in the outer rim and he'd been raised by an aunt and uncle who took great pains to ensure he never knew anything about where he actually came from.

The average person in the inner or mid-rim regions during that time would for sure know about the existence of at least the Jedi. Hell, until Sidious sent out Order 66, they were celebrated war heroes that had all their latest exploits broadcast around the Republic via the Holonet. Anakin & Obi Wan were legendary in this regard across the Republic.

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may be wrong, but I got a sense from what Han was saying in the trailer that 30 years after the death of Vader & Sidious, the Jedi and Sith both have sort of passed into legend. Notice how the told them "it was all true, the Dark Side and the Jedi". It's almost like he's telling them something they thought was just fairy tales is actually true.

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You have to look at this from the point of view of the average Galactic denizen. Even during height of the Republic, the majority really didn't "understand" Jedi (probably didn't know wtf a Sith was since they had been extinct for over 1,000 years). Few of them had ever seen a Jedi let alone seen one in action.

During the height of the Empire, the Jedi's role in galactic history was marginalized. Those who knew of the Jedi didn't speak of them for fear of attracting the attention of the Empire.

Even Han, in A New Hope, says he doesn't believe in the Force.

Fast forward 30 years, and you have Han saying what he said to a bunch of kids who grew up in a galaxy that never knew the Jedi for what they once where. It's not all that much harder to understand than listening to Grandpa tell you stories about the Great Depression.