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re: The Challenge: Final Reckoning season-long Thread

Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:41 pm to
I'm wondering if its even considered a game show. I think it would have to be.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:58 pm to
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This is fricking rigged. Pauly has at least twice the resistance Kam Newton has


Yep, no question.

Kam was standing at the cage with little effort and Paulie couldn't get anywhere near the cage.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 11:51 pm to
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PSA kam and kayleigh CRUSHED IT. Killer teamwork. but... @PaulCalafiore_ was given TWO thicker and shorter bands because... “equalizer”. He had that thing stretched to the max but it was barely enough to grab a piece. @mtv @ChallengeMTV ???????


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I’m ok with an “equalizer” but that was bullshite. And if you’re going to do one at least announce it.

The format for this season has so much potential, but the teams they put together are absolute shite. And now they’re doubling down on their frick up by trying to make it fair.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 7:47 am to
I fell asleep while watching it last night so I missed the last ten minutes or so. Sounds like typical bullshite with them fricking over the guy to make things “even” going against a girl. shite like that makes me want to tune out.

They’ve already fricked with the format so much that the show is nothing like it used to be (and I realize they have to in order to keep the players on their toes), but at least they’ve managed to keep it relatively fresh and interesting. If their next move is to try to make it an even playing field between men and women they may lose me, because you can’t simply force that into happening without unfair bullshite.

I do kinda like the voting thing though. How whomever gets voted it gets to choose out of the people who voted for them. That’s kinda cool. I just hope they don’t throw too many twists in there to where it gets annoying. It’s bad enough that I already know that the season will end disappointingly (thanks to the fricking a-hole who felt the need to brag about knowing the outcome and ruining that for the rest of us). Hopefully it will be entertaining. The last couple of seasons have been.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 7:54 am to
I love the way they are choosing elimination teams this season. I’ve always felt that if you choose a team or player for elimination, you better be willing to go against them. It keeps scrubs from teaming up on good players like CT and eliminating him without having to do anything.

The unequal amount of bands was bullshite. Cam was standing my the cage just chilling and Paulie couldn’t even stand up hardly.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:05 am to
Yeah as bad as Veronica is I expect her and CT to rarely, if ever, get voted in since nobody will want to potentially let CT choose them to face in elimination.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:13 am to
Right. Once TJ announced the system for this season, CT went from a layup team to favorite instantly because no one will want to face him in an elimination regardless of his slob partner.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22476 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:47 am to
The new “twists” are interesting and needed. The nominations prior to this season became a joke.

Still not sold on the cast. It’s very weak. The redemption house is very bland
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19690 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:58 pm to
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The format for this season has so much potential, but the teams they put together are absolute shite. And now they’re doubling down on their frick up by trying to make it fair.


This is where I am at with this season. In general I really like the secret voting and elimination changes they have made but the entire season is a joke with the pairings. I just don't see how the coed teams vs non coed teams can make for interesting or fair eliminations.

ETA the redemption house needs to come to a conclusion asap and they need to get back to the regular pace each episode. Ideally each episode would have a challenge/elimination
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Member since Dec 2008
31939 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:59 pm to
I don't think CT is necessarily safe if the eliminations are either puzzles or so stacked against men that it becomes comical. People will wait and see how the eliminations are going down. If the men are continuing to get smoked by the women, then why not take a shot at CT or Joss or Zach with their weak female partners.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111151 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:17 pm to
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Right. Once TJ announced the system for this season, CT went from a layup team to favorite instantly because no one will want to face him in an elimination regardless of his slob partner.
I don't know. The way the teams are lined up, i highly doubt we'll see challenges that are purely physical, unless it's an all guy team vs another all guy team or girls, same thing.

Otherwise, it'll be challenges where either they have some physical parts combined with mental, like last night. Then they can also "level" the playing field like they did with Paulie vs Kam, which was silly.

On some level, CT's physical prowess is going to be diminished as we won't see just one of those knockdown, dragout, physical beating type of challenges I'm guessing.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:58 pm to
I’ll add that as much as I do like the Armageddon setup, I think it would behoove them to do a season where the voting is completely anonymous and is never revealed. That would instantly drive up the entertainment level in the house with people freaking the frick out trying to figure out who voted for whom.

I guess we’ll still get a little bit of that since they are apparently only showing who voted for the people who went in. But still, an entire season of anonymous voting could be epic.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12723 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 2:56 pm to
This season should be a freaking blast. I’m learning to like Kam just cause she’s such a monster. Kayleigh will cost her at the end of the day, but I can’t wait to see Kam in a final someday down the line. She’s become less obnoxious the more you see her too. They obviously adjusted the bungees to compensate for weight. It seemed they took it a little far or Kam is just that much of a monster.

Natalie is hot and them fake titties are nice, but Johnny looked like he took 4 years off her life, and I can’t stand how much of an attention whore she is with this whole lesbian thing. Far be it from me to call someone a liar on their sexuality, but she reeks of loving attention more than men or women.

ETA: won’t miss Natalie. But her and Melissa gone so early is a little bit of a bummer for the eyes.
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 2:58 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111151 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 3:29 pm to
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I’ll add that as much as I do like the Armageddon setup, I think it would behoove them to do a season where the voting is completely anonymous and is never revealed. That would instantly drive up the entertainment level in the house with people freaking the frick out trying to figure out who voted for whom.

Yea, that would be pretty cool. In a weird way, I think it would heighten the drama because the speculation would run rampant.

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I guess we’ll still get a little bit of that since they are apparently only showing who voted for the people who went in. But still, an entire season of anonymous voting could be epic.

I'm just not into this season at all. I told the wife last night was probably going to be the last one I watched this season as this show is really her thing, and I just tag along. But the twist on the secret voting, even if it wasn't totally secret, this one still works to make things interesting, and it'll get me to stick around at least a bit longer to see how that plays out. Should make for some good fighting between teams.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111151 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 3:35 pm to
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This season should be a freaking blast. I’m learning to like Kam just cause she’s such a monster.
It's weird because I like the way she handles herself on the show intereacting with others, and yea, she's one of the stronger physical girls on the show, but mannnnnnnn, I can't stand when she does the interviews. That shite is annoying.

quote:

Natalie is hot and them fake titties are nice
quote:

ETA: won’t miss Natalie. But her and Melissa gone so early is a little bit of a bummer for the eyes.



Give Melissa Natalie's boobs, and we're onto something!
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20402 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

I’ll add that as much as I do like the Armageddon setup, I think it would behoove them to do a season where the voting is completely anonymous and is never revealed. That would instantly drive up the entertainment level in the house with people freaking the frick out trying to figure out who voted for whom.


Pretty sure that’s how’s the voting was done on Cutthroat except that it was your own team voting you in. I wish they would bring back that format but for some reason they don’t like the big team challengers anymore.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39282 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 7:14 pm to
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On some level, CT's physical prowess is going to be diminished as we won't see just one of those knockdown, dragout, physical beating type of challenges I'm guessing.

It would be awesome to see CT backpack one of the girls though.
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
6691 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 12:54 am to
As you guys have said Paulie got screwed over his bands were much tougher than they should've been. I do like the secret voting and then it being revealed. Giving that team the chance to pick their opponent is also good. i bet Wes wishes he had that option back in the day.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 7:12 am to
I thought the blind voting, then the reveal, then letting that team pick their opponent out of the teams that voted for them was a great way to handle eliminations.

That's going to make for some interesting votes later because no one is going to want to vote for the loser and put themselves at risk. I could see some teams attempting throw away votes on Bananas & Tony or CT & Veronica thinking that there's no way those teams will get the most votes. Then they might anyway, and now you've put yourself at risk against a strong team inadvertently.


Also agree that it looked like Paulie got screwed over. He looked to have about twice the resistance as Kam and he's not twice her size.



This would be much better if all the teams were coed, or all the teams were same gender and it was alternating between girls/guys eliminations. The way it's set up the eliminations are going to have to be puzzle/strategy games instead of a direct physical showdown.
This post was edited on 7/26/18 at 7:14 am
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19118 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:45 am to
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Also agree that it looked like Paulie got screwed over. He looked to have about twice the resistance as Kam and he's not twice her size.




I wonder how this challenge would have played out if Paulie and Natalie changed positions, and he was the one building the puzzle while she grabbed the pieces.

Then it would have actually been an even playing field (besides the fact that men have larger brains than women).
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