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Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:09 pm to Corinthians420
Yoda at the end, I was hoping for Plagus.
At least we know why the council didn't know about the sith.
I can't believe we just a flash of Plagus. Also they are trolling us with the end credits song.
At least we know why the council didn't know about the sith.
I can't believe we just a flash of Plagus. Also they are trolling us with the end credits song.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:09 pm to Esquire
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Wasn’t expecting that Plagueis cameo so early in the episode. Hopefully we get more in the rest
Curious how this will work with the Rule of Two. But my curiosity is how will this play out if him. He was the master of Darth Sidious who later betrayed him. In canon they are calling Qimir/Stranger a Sith Lord but if that is the case what role does Plagueis now play. Not to mention we know Plaqueis will be around for a while now to train his apprentice Sidious.
I am not complaining about the cameo just curious how are they going to tie all of this together.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:11 pm to Corinthians420
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Haha how mad are people gonna be that they threw Yoda in the final scene?
Why it fits canon? He was a Grand Master on the Jedi High Council at the time.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:12 pm to Napoleon
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Also they are trolling us with the end credits song.
oh yeah. I was sure that Osha and Mae were gonna somehow be combined into one at the end of the season. 
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:20 pm to TideWarrior
The simple answer is the jedi were not correct about the rule of two. Sidious had more than one aprentice at a time. The rule of two is one of the many misunderstandings about the Sith that led to the Jedi demise.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:34 pm to TideWarrior
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Curious how this will work with the Rule of Two. But my curiosity is how will this play out if him. He was the master of Darth Sidious who later betrayed him. In canon they are calling Qimir/Stranger a Sith Lord but if that is the case what role does Plagueis now play. Not to mention we know Plaqueis will be around for a while now to train his apprentice Sidious.
I am not complaining about the cameo just curious how are they going to tie all of this together.
The Sith are always planning their next betrayal. Sidious was looking for a more powerful apprentice while Dooku was searching for an apprenctice of his own to overtake Sidious.
It is very likely that Plagueis is the current apprentice, and is preparing Qimir to help him overthrow his master while Qimir thinks he is the apprentice, to a master that he is trying to overthrow. It is the nature of the sith.
In the old EU Sidious murdered Plagueis after he became Chancellor of the Senate. By that time Sidious had already trained Maul, and started his seduction of Dooku.
Meanwhile Plaguies master, Tenebrous had an apprentice he intended to replace Plaguis with until Plaguies killed him.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:44 pm to BlackAdam
This show, just like Obi-Wan, had so much potential to be really good. It’s a shame it was written by morons.
I simply do not care about Osha/Mae. They are minor throw away characters in a show that’s supposed to be all about them. Sol feeling bad for killing a fricking demon ghost was so stupid.
I am however interested in Qimir. I’d be interested in a season 2 if the focus is on the Sith and him. I’d be interested in several seasons that follow Qimir, Plageus, and Sidius.
I’ve always thought they should do a movie on just Palpatine. Hell they could do a trilogy just on him. One movie on his rise to being a sith. One movie on what he did behind the scenes during the Prequels, and a third on what he does after order 66 leading up to a new hope.
I simply do not care about Osha/Mae. They are minor throw away characters in a show that’s supposed to be all about them. Sol feeling bad for killing a fricking demon ghost was so stupid.
I am however interested in Qimir. I’d be interested in a season 2 if the focus is on the Sith and him. I’d be interested in several seasons that follow Qimir, Plageus, and Sidius.
I’ve always thought they should do a movie on just Palpatine. Hell they could do a trilogy just on him. One movie on his rise to being a sith. One movie on what he did behind the scenes during the Prequels, and a third on what he does after order 66 leading up to a new hope.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:45 pm to BlackAdam
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The Sith are always planning their next betrayal. Sidious was looking for a more powerful apprentice while Dooku was searching for an apprenctice of his own to overtake Sidious.
It is very likely that Plagueis is the current apprentice, and is preparing Qimir to help him overthrow his master while Qimir thinks he is the apprentice, to a master that he is trying to overthrow. It is the nature of the sith.
In the old EU Sidious murdered Plagueis after he became Chancellor of the Senate. By that time Sidious had already trained Maul, and started his seduction of Dooku.
Meanwhile Plaguies master, Tenebrous had an apprentice he intended to replace Plaguis with until Plaguies killed him.
All this fits pretty well with the rule of 2 imo.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:46 pm to Al Opecia
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The simple answer is the jedi were not correct about the rule of two.
According to canon the Rule of Two was not a Jedi thing but something created by Darth Bane after the Jedi almost completely destroyed the Sith.
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Sidious had more than one aprentice at a time.
Sidious only ever had one apprentice at a time. His first was Darth Maul. When it was believed Maul had died, he took Dooku as his next apprentice. After the death of Dooku he started grooming Anakin who became his final apprentice who actually fulfilled the Rule of Two by killing his master.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:48 pm to TeddyPadillac
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This show, just like Obi-Wan, had so much potential to be really good. It’s a shame it was written by morons.
This
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:52 pm to Corinthians420
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All this fits pretty well with the rule of 2 imo.
Except the rule of two the apprentice first has to kill his master before taking on an apprentice himself. Killing your master demonstrates your ability to become master.
You would not be training an apprentice prior to that. Only time we see that is Disney presented that to us with Dooku twice trying to make apprentice without Sidious knowing.
I guess Disney can make it that way if they wanted but it is not how the Rule of Two worked nor did Sidious who as we know was the only apprentice of Plagueis
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:54 pm to TideWarrior
The rule of 2 was more like the rule of 4. One master fishing for a new apprentice. One apprentice fishing for an apprentice. The emperor and vader just happened to be fishing for the same apprentice Luke. Sidious was always fishing and had multiple leads in EU media.Bane got Zannah who had Harth as apprentice. The rule of two was immediately compromised as it always would be there after.
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:08 pm to TideWarrior
Dont mean to be argumentative, but I think you forgot about Ventress friend. Sidious knew about her and gave the order to terminate when he was not successful recruiting.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:13 pm to Al Opecia
Am i trolling now? Am I doing this right, arguing about EU facts?
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:13 pm to BlackAdam
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Meanwhile Plaguies master, Tenebrous had an apprentice he intended to replace Plaguis with until Plaguies killed him.
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Interesting that Darth Tenebrous was still around during the show.
Also in the EU Plaguies states his first mission as an apprentice was to assassinate someone using telekinetic strangulation. How Sol was killed and what Qimir told Mae she needed to do in killing a Jedi without a weapon.
SO many possibilities the show could follow. I know it will be about the sisters but I really would like the show to follow the path of the Sith and their return.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:15 pm to TideWarrior
There are aspects of this show that need to keep being told. Have the Jedi interrogate Mae and then write her out of the show, and go from there
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:17 pm to TideWarrior
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Curious how this will work with the Rule of Two. But my curiosity is how will this play out if him. He was the master of Darth Sidious who later betrayed him. In canon they are calling Qimir/Stranger a Sith Lord but if that is the case what role does Plagueis now play. Not to mention we know Plaqueis will be around for a while now to train his apprentice Sidious.
I am not complaining about the cameo just curious how are they going to tie all of this together
At this point he's just an apprentice to Darth Tenebraus, and he's looking for a pupil himself to train for the day he takes the Master role, my thinking is that Pleg caused the Jedi to kill the witches after he discovers the Twins powers then later used Qimir to lure Osha to him in Season 2.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:17 pm to TideWarrior
The Sith were not good at following rules including their own.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:20 pm to Al Opecia
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Dont mean to be argumentative, but I think you forgot about Ventress friend
When Ventress first came onto the scene she was only used as an assassin. Once Dooku brought her in as an apprentice I do believe Sidious knew but it did not concern him at first.
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Sidious knew about her and gave the order to terminate when he was not successful recruiting.
If I remember he gave Dooku the order to terminate her and show his loyalty not because he could not recruit her to be his apprentice. I may be wrong and missed something in the EU on this but I believe that is what is in canon.
She is another character that could have her on show.
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