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re: The Acolyte features a coven of lesbian space witches who can get pregnant without men

Posted on 6/14/24 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47993 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 6:39 pm to
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He’s pure evil, a foot soldier for the worst people among us.
I think he's just a troll trying to get as many reactions as he can.

You kinda like that MK, I know, lol. But frick that dude. He's nothing but a troll.
Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
2836 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 6:52 pm to
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It's force feeding 21st century American gay politics into the shows that is the issue. You don't have to hate gay people to get tired of every property making that a central focus to the detriment of good writing and story.


That would be an issue if it were relevant to this show. But gay politics aren’t a central focus of this show. The sexuality of the characters is fairly irrelevant to the story. It isn’t mentioned at all. Its barely hinted at, there is only one scene that would even lead you to think the lead witch may be involved with the zabrak. Andor was much more blatant about its lesbian couple.

This show is tame. There are shows on Cartoon Network that push identity politics harder than this.

As much warning about identity stuff and “ruining lore” as I saw prior to this episode, I expected to see way worse… and by episode’s end, I was left thinking “That’s it?”

You have plenty issues listed that are fine criticisms. Corny magic mantras and poor acting. Identity stuff is the least of this show’s problems.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38674 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 6:54 pm to
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Correct. Putting gay themes in social important IPs exposes the amount of hatred that still exists.


Ah so Progressives only care about "the message." All times. Don't care about history, tradition, who created what, justice, etc. It's only important to take over things and twist it for their own evil purposes.


That explains everything. Thanks for confirming.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51743 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 6:57 pm to
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The fanbase needs to be purged.

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Nobody gatekeeps who is a real fan or what is acceptable content.

Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 7:09 pm to
of course, we can only have LGBTQ+ or pedo's leading movies now.

Disney is disgusting
This post was edited on 6/14/24 at 7:10 pm
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5753 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 7:16 pm to
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I mean, that’s not true. The ones aligned with the Dark Side and Sith are pretty consistently considered the bad guy. The Empire is always the bad guy at the end of the day. Even if a member does a good deed, it ultimately serves the greater Evil. Palpatine and his regime is and always will be evil.

The First Order is blatantly depicted as an evil follow-up organization.

The Sequels are very simple in depicting who is bad and who is good.

The Prequels began planting the seeds of flawed Jedi and a corrupt Republic. Megacorporations pullings the strings of political movements. The “good guys” turning into the “bad guys.” And these themes continue being shown in the Clone Wars show as well. Nothing about that is new or a product of Disney telling them what to do.


I thought we were discussing the Acolyte and how it changes the lore of SW?

The force has always been binary. Good vs Evil. That is no longer the case. Jeti can be "bad", their motives questionable, their actions evil. We now have different interpretations of the force. Which in and of itself would be fine if it wasn't being used as a vehicle to cram "the message" down our throats. Having immaculate conceptions outside of Anikens birth completely changes the entire methos. It's right up there with resurrecting Palpatine. The only reasons these choices are being made is to promote a social agenda and lazy unimaginative writing.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 7:19 pm to
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The force has always been binary. Good vs Evil. That is no longer the case. Jeti can be "bad", their motives questionable, their actions evil. We now have different interpretations of the force. Which in and of itself would be fine if it wasn't being used as a vehicle to cram "the message" down our throats. Having immaculate conceptions outside of Anikens birth completely changes the entire methos. It's right up there with resurrecting Palpatine. The only reasons these choices are being made is to promote a social agenda and lazy unimaginative writing.


your last sentence says it all!
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7472 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 7:45 pm to
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hth52


I’m happy you seem to like the show. Good for you man. But when you have a show-runner saying that her queer experience is reflected in the show and then you have a group of space witches talking about the galaxy that can’t accept them, you have to be pretty blind to say there isn’t any messaging. It’s tiresome to have entertainment be co-opted into social messaging at every turn.
You are right that the bad writing and stupid storyline are much greater issues with this particular show. Maybe a focus on the quality of those things rather than sticking it to the patriarchy Star Wars style would have helped.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70823 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 10:33 pm to
Just wait until next episode when we get they/them pronouns.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 1:08 am to
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These people are mentally ill and probably need help. Its a campy sci fi show.


Its now a woke sci fi show about mentally ill people that need help.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 1:49 am to
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You guys are homophobes. Just using Star Wars and Disney as a rally point for your fear and hatred of homosexuals. You are despicable human beings.


Dont be an idiot by conflating not wanting to celebrate with Hate.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 1:52 am to
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I mean, that’s not true. The ones aligned with the Dark Side and Sith are pretty consistently considered the bad guy. The Empire is always the bad guy at the end of the day. Even if a member does a good deed, it ultimately serves the greater Evil. Palpatine and his regime is and always will be evil.


I think he is talking about the lore of this show, not what used to be star wars.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18333 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 3:53 am to
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Cool. Calling police.


What are you going to tell them?

"Hello, police? I'd like to report a theft. The mean cisgender posters on tigerdroppings took my dignity and destroyed my worldview."
Posted by Al Opecia
Member since Sep 2022
524 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 4:47 am to
So I guess you "straight" people are devoting your entire Saturday to being offended by gay people on Star Wars shows on the internet. Maybe the creep madcity will come on and tell me what I am going to eat for breakfast in a couple hours. You guys are the worst honestly.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 5:14 am
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30267 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:07 am to
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So I guess you "straight" people are devoting your entire Saturday to being offended by gay people on Star Wars shows on the internet. Maybe the creep madcity will come on and tell me what I am going to eat for breakfast in a couple hours. You guys are the worst honestly.

No, I'm going to be watching the U.S. Open this Saturday. I bet I know what you're having for breakfast. Is it a bowl of dicks?
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7472 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:08 am to
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Al Opecia


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You guys are the worst honestly.


You are the guy in the abusive relationship who keeps coming back for more.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65899 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:32 am to
This is obvious grooming. We've gone from the argument that the sequel trilogy was only bad to us old folks who loved Star Wars because it was geared toward children because "Star Wars is for kids" to lesbian witch covens can have children magically and I'm supposed to believe this Star Wars, which is "for kids," remember, isn't meant to be grooming children.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 8:36 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70823 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:35 am to
You’ll probably consume some propaganda with a side of victimhood for breakfast.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47993 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:43 am to
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So I guess you "straight" people are devoting your entire Saturday to being offended by gay people on Star Wars shows on the internet.
Speaking of devotion, coming to M/TV at 4:47am on a Saturday morning to rile up the cisgenders is true dedication sweetie.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41051 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:17 am to
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But gay politics aren’t a central focus of this show.


It's the ONLY focus of the show. The director has come out and stated as much. Yet, you are still here carrying water for the lunatic fringe.
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