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re: ‘Tenet’ Tomatometer- 74% - Non Spoilers Review Thread and box office

Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by CubanSaint
Member since May 2013
958 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:25 pm to
I feel like I could be in the minority but I did not like it.. The comments about the sound mixing and how damn confusing it is are both spot on. I might have been able to tell what was going on if I could underhand the dialogue, but you can't. Happy to be back at the theatre, but disappointing output from Nolan this go around.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:28 pm to
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feel like I could be in the minority but I did not like it.. The comments about the sound mixing and how damn confusing it is are both spot on. I might have been able to tell what was going on if I could underhand the dialogue, but you can't. Happy to be back at the theatre, but disappointing output from Nolan this go around.



It was just incredibly muddy. It was so hard to follow quite whaT was happening and why certain characters and their actions were important.

It had the bones of a great movie but I think it was just executed poorly and written likely more poorly.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:52 pm to
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might have been able to tell what was going on if I could underhand the dialogue, but you can't.


How could you possibly think that doing this is a good idea? That just blows my mind. Wtf Nolan
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10676 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:56 pm to
It's really not a film that can be fully absorbed in one sitting.

To fully string together the character timelines (especially Neil's at the end) will require multiple viewings along with perhaps a bit of self study. The film's events become quite elegant when things start clicking. Same with Memento.

Albeit it's understandable that some may not want this from a film. For those who appreciate Nolan's non-linear storytelling, though, this is right up their alley.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/1/20 at 8:34 pm to
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EXCLUSIVE: The box office weekend projections for Warner Bros.’ Tenet just got higher. We can report that Regal Cinemas will have their cinemas reopened in time for this weekend’s release of the Christopher Nolan movie in New Jersey, Maryland and some cities in California.

As of tomorrow, Wednesday at 5PM, Regal will be reopening their theatres in San Diego along with two locations around El Dorado county and one in Sonora, CAa along with three in Anchorage, Alaska.

The Cineworld-owned chain will also open again in New Jersey as of Friday, and by 5PM on Friday, they’ll also be turning the lights back on in 11 locations in Maryland. The Oriole state recently announced the OK for movie theaters to reopen with a capacity limit at 50% , not to exceed 100 people per auditorium.



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Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 9/1/20 at 8:45 pm to
People aren’t going to like me saying this but Nolan needs to drop his whole time manipulation gimmick from his movies. It’s stale and he’s crawling up his own arse into Damon Lindelof territory.

The man does have well cast movies though.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 9/1/20 at 10:02 pm to
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People aren’t going to like me saying this


From what I'm seeing, I think most are going to agree with you. It's getting bashed pretty bad on social media.

Down to 78 now
This post was edited on 9/1/20 at 10:05 pm
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:13 am to
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People aren’t going to like me saying this but Nolan needs to drop his whole time manipulation gimmick from his movies. It’s stale and he’s crawling up his own arse into Damon Lindelof territory.


Right,

He needs to do more superhero movies
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:41 am to
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Its not worth going to theaters any time soon. I don't want to deal with Karen complaining about someone sitting too close or not wearing their mask during the movie.



how soft are you? you cant go see a movie because of the off chance that someone in your vicinity may complain about something. I went to see it and no one complained.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:42 am to
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went to see it and no one complained.


How was it?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:48 am to
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How was it?



pretty good. Incredible action scenes, and great pacing. did not feel like a long 2.5 hr movie. Still gotta echo the confusion and sound mixing others talked about be prepared to not hear some diaglogue and to be confused at points.

Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23890 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 11:22 am to
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Incredible action scenes, and great pacing


I’ll agree with you on the first part but I thought the pacing was horrible. I almost never notice movie pacing but this one it just hit me like a ton of bricks. I was constantly looking at my watch to see how far into the movie we were. And I really enjoy all of Nolan’s movies.

The sound mixing was atrocious. We felt we missed 1/4 or more of the lines.

ETA: the action scenes really were awesome but I felt like so many of the players just came out of left field with no explanation. So the protagonist was CIA? Were all of those other people in their side in the battle CIA? Or tenet? Also who were on the opposing side. Who would willingly fight to end the world so explicitly like that. We’re they all devoted religious fanatics? I feel like Nolan just pushed through an arse ton of questions without really thinking if it made sense.
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 11:24 am
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10676 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 11:33 am to
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ETA: the action scenes really were awesome but I felt like so many of the players just came out of left field with no explanation. So the protagonist was CIA? Were all of those other people in their side in the battle CIA? Or tenet? Also who were on the opposing side. Who would willingly fight to end the world so explicitly like that. We’re they all devoted religious fanatics? I feel like Nolan just pushed through an arse ton of questions without really thinking if it made sense.


Answered these in the spoiler thread.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86131 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 11:54 am to
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Tenet is Inception + a Bond movie. Would recommend.



uh, this sound like a personal 100 score for me
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39073 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 12:08 pm to
So it's a wait for CC home viewing movie?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 1:08 pm to
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Christopher Nolan’s Use of Sound on ‘Tenet’ Infuriates Some, Inspires Others


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Sound professionals contacted by Variety were reluctant to comment on the work of others, especially given the stellar track record of “Tenet’s” sound team, led by supervising sound editor Richard King, who won Oscars for Nolan’s “The Dark Knight,” “Inception” and “Dunkirk,” and received an Oscar nomination for “Interstellar.”

One supervising sound editor, who agreed to speak on the condition of anonymity, notes that “the sound mixes for Christopher Nolan films are painstakingly considered.

Everything you hear (or don’t hear) is the result of “ultra-conscious direction.” He adds: “If you understand ‘the gist’ of the dialogue, then they’re happy. As a dialogue editor I prefer to understand each word, but that’s my preference.”

Mentioning that the film had an “excellent sound team,” an award-winning sound mixer says: “I know Nolan does like to push the envelope. He’s an artist and I don’t think he believes in working to the lowest common denominator of projection environments.”

He adds: “When you are listening in a perfect mixing theater environment and push the limits of the system, it’s surprising how much this sound mix can translate differently in different theaters.”

Peter Albrechtsen, a sound designer who worked on “Dunkirk,” disagrees. Nolan tries to ensure that “every cinema is playing the film exactly as he wants it,” he claims. “And that’s why he’s still mixing sound in 5.1, even though we now have Atmos, because that’s the format most cinemas have.”

In Albrechtsen’s opinion, “Tenet” is “a spectacular movie.” He likens it to a “James Bond movie on steroids.”



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Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23890 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 2:07 pm to
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The lead does a great job carrying. Would like to see more work from him in the future.


I liked him and want to see more too.

The writing though for his character felt like it jumped around. One scene he was James Bond. The next he was Harry Potter who basically just improvised and relied on information from others to succeed. It was a bit jarring at times like they couldn’t decide which direction to go.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67800 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 2:10 pm to
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I feel like Nolan just pushed through an arse ton of questions without really thinking if it made sense.


so it's a typical Nolan movie? good to know
Posted by stateofplay
Member since Sep 2018
1504 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 4:57 pm to
When i realized it was possibly about Time Travel I was out. Too overdone at this point.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
8267 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 7:47 pm to
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