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re: Ta-Nehisi Coates to Write New Superman Movie for Warner Bros.

Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:02 pm to
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visionary

quote:

hack

Not sure those can go together.

This is a weird choice, both for DC and for Coates. I don't know why anyone would want to write a superman movie, especially when you know people like the ones in this thread will cry so much about it.

I'm not going to defend his comics work because I haven't read any of it, but anyone who's calling him a bad writer obviously hasn't read The Water Dancer, or is lying because their butt hurts too much.
Posted by Hayekian serf
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:15 pm to
Over/under page length for the comment section
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:51 pm to
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Ta-Nehisi



The frick?


Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:43 pm to
His BP is considered good. The kinetic energy reverberation came from him.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:51 pm to
Technically speaking, Coates is a great writer. Excellent command of prose. Vibrant language. Good sense of character.


But he's as subtle as a nuclear warhead. And his politics are problematic for any superhero not named Black Panther.

We're getting either Black Superman or a Superman who will rise through identity politics struggles and will most likely put other white people in their place. There is no other political alternative for Coates.

Man of Steel, you have met your shitty Superman match.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Ibleedblackandgold
Back in Louisiana where I belong
Member since Jun 2009
2738 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:13 pm to
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There are men like Snyder and then there are other filmmakers who turn whatever they touch into shite



You just described Snyder in a nutshell. He is a great cinematographer.....that's it. He's a one trick pony. Majority of his movies are garbage and the successful ones were already put to page and he just needed to copy it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89552 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:13 pm to
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Technically speaking, Coates is a great writer. Excellent command of prose. Vibrant language. Good sense of character.


But he's as subtle as a nuclear warhead. And his politics are problematic for any superhero not named Black Panther.


Agreed, this is like getting Stephen King to pen a Pixar script.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22742 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:51 pm to
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It says in the article it’s a black Superman story


The Man of Steal











I kid, I kid.

Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10460 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 2:21 am to
I love people trying to claim he is a great writer. Being a novelist is quite different than 1) a comic book writer and 2) a movie script writer.

General opinion of his BP comics are that they are atrocious and it was a huge mistake to bring him on. Now you are giving him a piece of IP to work on that he cannot relate to at all and will likely just ignore the history and backstories and make up entirely random shite.

Snyder stuck to much of the cannon, and tried to show a different perspective on Superman. A dark theme on the carnage that ensues. Think of it like Khan in Star Trek lore. He’s insane and violent to know end, but you can understand his thinking and motivation.

Snyder just went too dark for his own good with Man of Steel and also just some horrible casting on several characters (*cough* Lois *cough*). In that, Snyder turned off most fans, and was never getting them back.

This will just be awful, but because of identify politics and the unethical use of schools to bring kids to see violent action films because a hero is black will prop it up for them.

Maybe DC and WB just think a real Superman movie is DOA and figure they can just cash in on identity politics bullshite.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58856 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:27 am to
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anyone who's calling him a bad writer obviously hasn't read The Water Dancer, or is lying because their butt hurts too much.


quote:

Jay Are


He’s a bad writer.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58856 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:29 am to
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Technically speaking, Coates is a great writer. Excellent command of prose. Vibrant language. Good sense of character.


Oh for frick’s sake. Virtue signaled, I suppose.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18419 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:20 am to
The bigger problem is the number of people who disagree politically and socially with this decision but still pay to see the movie anyway.

If WB lost money, they’d stop trying to adapt every American fiction hero into a person of color.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65130 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:21 am to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15557 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 8:20 am to
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The bigger problem is the number of people who disagree politically and socially with this decision but still pay to see the movie anyway.


I hope that’s the case. I won’t support this movie at all and I’m a DC fanboy, don’t care for the Marvel movies mostly and have been in the theater for every DC release except Birds of Prey.

I just want them to continue the Henry Cavill storyline.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:08 am to
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Oh for frick’s sake. Virtue signaled, I suppose.




I mean, technically he is.


I can't stand him or his narratives, but strip away that and he is a solid writer.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50545 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:12 am to
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The bigger problem is the number of people who disagree politically and socially with this decision but still pay to see the movie anyway.

If WB lost money, they’d stop trying to adapt every American fiction hero into a person of color.


I really don't think this movie is going to be blowing up the box office.

ETA: Part of me is glad this is a Superman movie everyone will ignore instead of them doing a new "Steel" movie with Coates as writer (which would have made more sense), because Steel deserves a good writer if they ever give that character another movie.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 9:18 am
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8664 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:33 am to
At the very beginning, what "Mild mannered" middle class job is envisioned?

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36119 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:57 am to
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We're getting either Black Superman or a Superman who will rise through identity politics struggles and will most likely put other white people in their place. There is no other political alternative for Coates.


There's one more option. Skywalker him. Debase the character while claiming that's not the objective.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17302 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 11:28 am to
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Technically speaking, Coates is a great writer.
quote:

But he's as subtle as a nuclear warhead.
These two traits are mutually exclusive.

A writer who is incapable of subtlety cannot be great, “technically speaking” or otherwise.
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