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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
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I'd still like to see a season of all people voted off first.


Francesca is the only one I can think of one ever brought back (at least as a first-timer voted off) and she was consequently voted off first again.

I believe Tina was the first voted off of All-Stars and then came back in Blood vs. Water, but that's a different scenario.


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
Bump one week out. Guess at the big twist this game aside for BR and Sandra being let back into the game.

I'm thinking multiple super idols that can be used AFTER the vote is in play this year.


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
I think there's going to be some sort of redemption/second chance that involves Boston Rob and Sandra's chance to get into the game.

The producers have been trying to downplay already the idea that they are part of the gameplay, which makes me think even moreso that they will be.

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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: At the end of the Edge of Extinction finale, you all showed the promo for Island of the Idols. And you announced that you’re bringing back Boston Rob and Sandra Diaz-Twine — not as players, but as mentors. Just walk us through the origin of this idea to bring them back in a new capacity that we haven’t seen before.

MATT VAN WAGENEN: This idea has morphed a million times. Jeff may have a different recollection of it, but I do remember one time we were walking back from a challenge while shooting over a year ago. We were walking back from a challenge, and he’s like, “What if we had something with some returning players, and we had, like, a Mount Rushmore?” And we started talking. And that was just the idea of faces on a mountain, I think was how things started. He had it cooking in his mind for a while. We threw out a lot of different names, and really when you talk about people who represent Survivor, I mean, Sandra, the only two-time winner. And Rob, who is one of the greatest players of all time. It’s not just their résumés, but it’s also their personalities that we thought would work for this. I think there was a brief discussion whether they’d be involved in the gameplay, but we put the kibosh on that pretty early. You know, it’s interesting, we spitball ideas for months. And there are so many different versions of these things, and we carve it down until we actually get the idea. And that’s what was fun about this one. To go from this crazy idea from over a year ago to walking out on the beach, seeing those giant heads…


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So where did the idea for this latest twist come from? “The idea came from wondering how to get a player like Boston Rob, who has said he’d never compete again because he doesn’t feel he’d ever really have a shot to win, to return to the show,” says Probst. “So, the idea of making Rob and Sandra mentors was born. They aren’t playing, they can’t cast a vote, they can’t be voted out, and they can’t win the million dollars. The basic idea is they run a Survivor boot camp. They teach aspects of the game and then give players a chance to test what they’ve learned.”



Also pretty sure there will be some form of super idols that are good more than once... that has already been hinted at.


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
The only reason I don't see them actually getting involved in the gameplay is because both of them are coming back for Season 40. Why give them a chance to win here when they'll be back on the next season?

I agree with Super Idols coming in to the game. It just seems like it will be more like a "Redemption Island" or "Edge of Extinction" like twist where the players can work themselves back into the game. Someone mentioned the puzzle Rob used to get back into the game on Redemption Island, so maybe the players are giving tips and tricks on small pieces like that.


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Someone mentioned the puzzle Rob used to get back into the game on Redemption Island, so maybe the players are giving tips and tricks on small pieces like that.


Exactly like that.

Jeff Probst explains how Survivor: Island of the Idols works

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But the Island of the Idols concept is not so simple. (Is anything simple on Survivor?) Because the two icons are not merely dispensing advice. Any new players that happen to visit the island will also be tempted with a challenge. “We give them the opportunity to test what they’ve learned by going up against Rob or Sandra,” Probst explains. “And the twist is, yes, it’s a bootcamp. But it’s a Survivor bootcamp. ‘So never forget, I’m Boston Rob and that’s Sandra, and you just fell into a trap.’ That was kind of the big idea. So the way it works is, the first person to visit Island of the Idols gets taught something about gameplay. It could be about making fire or it could be a strategy thing. And then Rob and Sandra give them a chance to test what they’ve learned.”

Should they pass the test, they will be awarded some sort of advantage in the game. But should they fail, they will lose something that could lead to their undoing. Says Probst: “For the person who is foolish enough to take the test and fail, they say, ‘Here’s your other life lesson, you should have never gone up against me. I’m the one who just showed you that. I’m an expert. And now you’re in trouble. Here’s how you recover.’ And if somebody says, “I’m no fool, I don’t want to go up against you,” [Rob and Sandra] were given the freedom, their own decision, to raise the stakes. So we gave them a cushion and said, you can go from here to here with the advantage. Whatever you want.”

Essentially, it’s a form of Survivor haggling and betting all rolled into one. “So Sandra could lean in and say, ‘What if we make an idol good for three Tribal Councils?’” says Probst. “Now you’re interested. And then the player might say yes. And they might still lose. And Rob might say ‘Why did you change your mind simply because the advantage got bigger? Your odds didn’t.’ So that’s the basic premise.”


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That actually does sound interesting. I'm guessing that is how they sold them on coming back for it. If they have some independence (obviously not full independence) on what they can offer for a reward, then they would definitely affect the gameplay without having a shot at winning.


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But the Island of the Idols concept is not so simple. (Is anything simple on Survivor?) Because the two icons are not merely dispensing advice. Any new players that happen to visit the island will also be tempted with a challenge. “We give them the opportunity to test what they’ve learned by going up against Rob or Sandra,” Probst explains. “And the twist is, yes, it’s a bootcamp. But it’s a Survivor bootcamp. ‘So never forget, I’m Boston Rob and that’s Sandra, and you just fell into a trap.’ That was kind of the big idea. So the way it works is, the first person to visit Island of the Idols gets taught something about gameplay. It could be about making fire or it could be a strategy thing. And then Rob and Sandra give them a chance to test what they’ve learned.”

Should they pass the test, they will be awarded some sort of advantage in the game. But should they fail, they will lose something that could lead to their undoing. Says Probst: “For the person who is foolish enough to take the test and fail, they say, ‘Here’s your other life lesson, you should have never gone up against me. I’m the one who just showed you that. I’m an expert. And now you’re in trouble. Here’s how you recover.’ And if somebody says, “I’m no fool, I don’t want to go up against you,” [Rob and Sandra] were given the freedom, their own decision, to raise the stakes. So we gave them a cushion and said, you can go from here to here with the advantage. Whatever you want.”

Essentially, it’s a form of Survivor haggling and betting all rolled into one. “So Sandra could lean in and say, ‘What if we make an idol good for three Tribal Councils?’” says Probst. “Now you’re interested. And then the player might say yes. And they might still lose. And Rob might say ‘Why did you change your mind simply because the advantage got bigger? Your odds didn’t.’ So that’s the basic premise.”


this sounds like something BR would say.


This sounds awesome and gives me hope for the new season.


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
I don't mind Rob. But, having to listen to Sandra all season won't be fun.


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
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this sounds like something BR would say. This sounds awesome and gives me hope for the new season


Same. I was going to watch but wasn’t excited about the idea.

Now I am.


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
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Return of Boston Rob and Sandra


Well, shit


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
Tonight's the night. Tune your antenna and fire up that streaming service my survivor junkies.


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Tonight's the night. Tune your antenna and fire up that streaming service my survivor junkies.


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
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Sandra is hard to handle for me


I will never understand how she won that show not once...but twice.


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I will never understand how she won that show not once...but twice.


Me either. Flew under the radar for the first one, no clue on how she won the second one.


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
Cassandra is the luckiest player ever. I by that I mean, she made it only because she was the lesser of an evil every time. I don't mind fly under the radar types, but she was brought along and not voted out because she was seen as weaker. She strictly was crowned because other tribesmen could not under any circumstances vote for the other(s) to win.


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Cassandra is the luckiest player ever. I by that I mean, she made it only because she was the lesser of an evil every time. I don't mind fly under the radar types, but she was brought along and not voted out because she was seen as weaker. She strictly was crowned because other tribesmen could not under any circumstances vote for the other(s) to win.


I agree. I hate how they act like she is something special. She's really not.


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
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I hate how they act like she is something special. She's really not


On the other hand, Rob winning his second time was probably the most impressive thing I've seen on the show. He was clearly the most likely to win it early on in the show but nobody was able to vote him off.


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re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols
Sandra played a decent game in her second win, but clearly Russell should have won.

Rob's winning season was masterful, but he was really aided by Phil being a blind loyal soldier as well as the NFL guy.


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