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Posted on 12/18/19 at 2:02 pm to RLDSC FAN
Problem with these movies is that all the fanboys are going see it no matter what.
The only way to get the studio to reboot this thing and make it worthwhile is to hit them in the box office take but that will never happen so they can throw out whatever movie they want and know it's going to make bank.
The only way to get the studio to reboot this thing and make it worthwhile is to hit them in the box office take but that will never happen so they can throw out whatever movie they want and know it's going to make bank.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 2:32 pm to UGATiger26
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The problem is having a protagonist (male or female) that the audience cannot relate to whatsoever. The job of a protagonist is to provide a perspective that makes the story relatable to the audience.
Well said. You hit the nail right on the head.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 2:55 pm to BulldogXero
I'm paying for Disney+ either way. Seems pretty simple to understand.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 2:56 pm to UGATiger26
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Even though Captain Marvel wasn't human, this is the same reason that Captain Marvel sucked.
The first 2 Thor movies had this problem too.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:04 pm to UGATiger26
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Having a female lead isn't a problem whatsoever. Alien and Aliens are two of my favorite movies of all time because of Ripley, not in spite of her. Part of what made Alien and Aliens such great movies is that Ripley's fear was palpable, and the audience could imagine themselves being in that same situation. The scene in Aliens where Ripley goes into the hive to rescue Newt is cinematic gold. The shot where she closes her eyes right before the elevator gets to the bottom...a quick moment, but perfectly captures the feeling of "holy shite, am I really about to do this?" That makes the experience real and relatable. Ripley is human. She isn't an invincible badass ready to stomp some alien arse.
The problem is having a protagonist (male or female) that the audience cannot relate to whatsoever. The job of a protagonist is to provide a perspective that makes the story relatable to the audience.
Protagonists aren't meant to be like your favorite sports team. We want our favorite teams to be perfect and beat everyone while we cheer them on.
I had to double check to see if it was me who wrote this. I've written the bolded section above almost verbatim at some point.
One of the reasons Die Hard is such a great action flick, better than Commando and Rambo in my opinion, is that John McClane is scared shitless the whole time. He's a regular Joe, with a warrior's heart. He finds himself in a bad situation and adapts to it. But he's freaking out the whole time.
Compare that to Pierce Brosnan's James Bond who never sweats, never looks worried, never looks the slightest bit in danger. There's no suspense, no audience engagement.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:07 pm to TygerTyger
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One of the reasons Die Hard is such a great action flick, better than Commando and Rambo in my opinion, is that John McClane is scared shitless the whole time. He's a regular Joe, with a warrior's heart. He finds himself in a bad situation and adapts to it. But he's freaking out the whole time.
We are seeing that in the Mandalorian. He is getting his arse handed to him a few times.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:12 pm to Nodust
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We are seeing that in the Mandalorian. He is getting his arse handed to him a few times.
And it's one of the reasons why The Mandalorian is a universal hit. It's amazing what you can do when you actually care about the world your telling your story in, and make the characters relatable.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:23 pm to TygerTyger
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I had to double check to see if it was me who wrote this. I've written the bolded section above almost verbatim at some point.
Ha, great minds think alike
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:33 pm to RLDSC FAN
Rewatching TLJ tonight in prep for tomorrow. Haven’t seen it since spring break of ‘18 (hammered might I add)
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:38 pm to PEPE
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People in general do not root for somebody who always wins.
Are you serious?
People love rooting for winners. That's why we get Patriot fans from Alabama and A1abama fans from Oregon.
Sure, people also love an underdog, but that's because they like to feel like they could be winners, too.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:42 pm to TygerTyger
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One of the reasons Die Hard is such a great action flick, better than Commando and Rambo in my opinion, is that John McClane is scared shitless the whole time. He's a regular Joe, with a warrior's heart. He finds himself in a bad situation and adapts to it. But he's freaking out the whole time.
Compare that to Pierce Brosnan's James Bond who never sweats, never looks worried, never looks the slightest bit in danger. There's no suspense, no audience engagement.
True this. Reason why Tom Cruise's Ethan Hunt is better to me than Bond or Jason bourne at this point ( not comparing the movies but the characters)
Cruise plays him as a man who feels fear but still does what he has to do while the other 2, although better than past heroes like Rambo, still seem superhuman.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 5:56 pm to UGATiger26
quote:If you watch Weaver's original screen test for Alien, that look and feel is EXACTLY what they were going for.
Ripley's fear was palpable, and the audience could imagine themselves being in that same situation.
That's one reason the feminists (when they were still semi-well meaning) loved it so much. She experienced incredible, palpable fear, but overcame it.
That, and the weirdly masculine underwear scene.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:32 pm to blueboy
The Associated Press
Review: ‘Rise of Skywalker’ is a sour end to a grand saga
Wow. That's just the first paragraph. WTF? I must have missed that from the leaks.
Review: ‘Rise of Skywalker’ is a sour end to a grand saga
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Not much has caused a disturbance in the “Star Wars” galaxy quite like Rian Johnson’s “The Last Jedi,” an erratic but electric movie that, regardless of how you felt about it, was something worth arguing about. The same can’t be said for J. J. Abrams’ “Rise of Skywalker,” a scattershot, impatiently paced, fan-servicing finale that repurposes so much of what came before that it feels as though someone searching for the hyperspace button accidentally pressed the spin cycle instead.
Wow. That's just the first paragraph.quote:
but ends up with mounted horse-like creatures charging on the wing of a Star Destroyer. Somewhere, Jar Jar Binks is celebrating. He might not be the most misplaced thing in the galaxy far, far away, after all.
WTF? I must have missed that from the leaks.This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 12/18/19 at 7:28 pm to blueboy
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This third “Star Wars” trilogy began with a plan
I'm not so sure about that. This trilogy feels like they spent more time designing the movie posters than the plot.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 7:31 pm to RougeDawg
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This trilogy feels like they spent more time trying shock the audience rather than write a coherent story.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 1:21 am to RougeDawg
Just watched Chris Stuckman’s review of it. And he was disappointed and he was someone who liked TLJ but hated some parts of it.
From what I’ve gathered, the whole thing feels like a mess and the only redeemable part of the movie is once again, Kylo Ren
From what I’ve gathered, the whole thing feels like a mess and the only redeemable part of the movie is once again, Kylo Ren
Posted on 12/19/19 at 1:35 am to WicKed WayZ
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From what I’ve gathered, the whole thing feels like a mess and the only redeemable part of the movie is once again, Kylo Ren
Kylo Ren is one of the most disappointing characters in cinematic history, given his potential.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 1:43 am to LuckyTiger
I agree. But he’s the only good part of TLJ and likely the only reason I’ll see the new one at some point
Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:17 am to WicKed WayZ
The reviews are looking like a targeted campaign to say this is what happens when you listen to fans, instead of blaming shitty story like they should of in TLJ, they are just blaming fans again by saying J.J. just tried to appease us. That’s bullshite, we didn’t want what is in this movie since I can’t say spoilers here.
This post was edited on 12/19/19 at 6:18 am
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