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re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers
Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:38 pm to VaBamaMan
Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:38 pm to VaBamaMan
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to force wipe a child's memory to the point that Ren couldn't find a hint of her lineage when he saw her memories as a child, would take some pretty serious skills.
As much as everything else points to Rey being Luke's daughter, wiping her memory and dropping her off on a shithole desert planet makes no sense to me.
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Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:39 pm to VaBamaMan
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Different note completely. I may have not looked back far enough, but has no one mentioned the fact that R2 wakes up almost immediately upon Rey's return. When her force powers would be in range.
Abrams explanation:
“BB-8 comes up and says something to him, which is basically, ‘I’ve got this piece of a map, do you happen to have the rest?’” Abrams said. “The idea was, R2 who has been all over the galaxy, is still in his coma, but he hears this. And it triggers something that would ultimately wake him up.”
Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:41 pm to Scoob
I think it's leia that initiated the hug.
And leia knows who rey is
And leia knows who rey is
Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:42 pm to Broski
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As much as everything else points to Rey being Luke's daughter, wiping her memory and dropping her off on a shithole desert planet makes no sense to me.
I could see him doing it to hide her from Ren and anyone else from the first order
As for why he wouldnt watch over her himself, he probably felt that he was a failure as a mentor after what happened to kylo and didn't want something similar to happen to Rey
Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:46 pm to Broski
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As much as everything else points to Rey being Luke's daughter, wiping her memory and dropping her off on a shithole desert planet makes no sense to me.
I think her latent power, and his state of mind, provides your answer. He isn't thinking clearly, he just knows her potential power is IMMENSE, and Snoke is now active in recruiting and turning those sensitive to the force. He knows from experience that no one pays attention to desert planets, and she would be safe there.
Plus, he is in no position to take care of a kid. As I said, his mind is wrecked from the guilt, pain, and betrayal. How can he care for a young girl as he leaves to find the temple? He has no idea how long it will take, the dangers he will face.
That's what I took from it.
Btw, I saw someone a few pages back suggest she was left with Max Von Sydow's character. That isn't the case. The arm holding her as a child clearly belongs to the fat alien junk dealer.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:49 pm to Ash Williams
I think Ren saved her from being killed by the other knights...in the flashback you see him stabbing a guy in the back who is facing toward her...I think Ren wiped her mind and brought her to jakku...perhaps Luke thought she was dead along with everyone else. Will be interesting to discover what happened.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:50 pm to VaBamaMan
Moving forward, development will be interesting for the characters.
Luke: I just don't see a Yoda-like moment, not like in Empire. I think it will be done differently. Luke left Yoda to save his friends. Went back again specifically to save Han. He did the Jedi thing, and then went off into seclusion... and that led to Han being killed. I can't see him staying back out of it all anymore, Han's death will be what prompts him into action. He has to come back and fix the Kylo Ren situation, and I think Leia will be begging Luke not to kill him, so that will put him into a sticky situation.
Luke and Snoke have to fight over Ren's soul, and that means Ren will have to stay alive and in Snoke's camp until the climax (which I think will be the last movie's big bit). Keeping everyone else from killing him will be tough. Chewie will want blood.
Luke: I just don't see a Yoda-like moment, not like in Empire. I think it will be done differently. Luke left Yoda to save his friends. Went back again specifically to save Han. He did the Jedi thing, and then went off into seclusion... and that led to Han being killed. I can't see him staying back out of it all anymore, Han's death will be what prompts him into action. He has to come back and fix the Kylo Ren situation, and I think Leia will be begging Luke not to kill him, so that will put him into a sticky situation.
Luke and Snoke have to fight over Ren's soul, and that means Ren will have to stay alive and in Snoke's camp until the climax (which I think will be the last movie's big bit). Keeping everyone else from killing him will be tough. Chewie will want blood.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:52 pm to Ash Williams
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I could see him doing it to hide her from Ren
But, when she touches the lightsaber she has a distinct memory of her as a little girl (can't be no older than 5) and watching what we must assume is her family leaving off in a ship.
In the same memory montage, we see the scene of Kylo along with the rest of the Knights of Ren standing over the slaughtered Jedi and Kylo is at the very least a teenager there.
It just doesn't add up.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:54 pm to Broski
I'm gonna go see it again soon literally just to see that flashback again. I didn't absorb as much as I wanted tk
Posted on 12/25/15 at 9:56 pm to Tiger Ryno
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I think Ren saved her from being killed by the other knights...in the flashback you see him stabbing a guy in the back who is facing toward her...I think Ren wiped her mind and brought her to jakku...perhaps Luke thought she was dead along with everyone else. Will be interesting to discover what happened.
His reaction to her mind makes this seem utterly implausible. Especially as uncontrolled his emotions are as a character. He would have freaked if it was Rey. Plus, something so delicate and subtle doesn't come across as his thing. He tries to overpower everything, because he thinks it's what Vader would do.
I'm curious about his line to the helmet. Paraphrasing somewhat here, "Show me once again the power of the darkside, and I will not falter." What previous moment did he think he had with Vader, and was it purely Snoke's doing?
Posted on 12/25/15 at 10:02 pm to Broski
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But, when she touches the lightsaber she has a distinct memory of her as a little girl (can't be no older than 5) and watching what we must assume is her family leaving off in a ship.
In the same memory montage, we see the scene of Kylo along with the rest of the Knights of Ren standing over the slaughtered Jedi and Kylo is at the very least a teenager there.
It just doesn't add up.
It called to her, but were they all her memories? We also hear both voices of Obi-Wan in that flashback. Including old Ben calling her name. Something she would have no memory of.
Though I do find it strange that both voices were there. Unless the second one wasn't Ewan McGregor's, it sounded a lot like it. I couldn't make out what was said though. It may could have been Qui-Gon. His accent can be similar at times.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 10:07 pm to VaBamaMan
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Unless the second one wasn't Ewan McGregor's,
It was.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 10:12 pm to Broski
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It was
In that case, why would they have Ben call to her in both voices?
Are they only doing it so they can use Ewan as the force ghost for Obi-Wan in upcoming movies? Just excuse it some silly way? "Oh, Ben only appeared as his old self to Luke because that was all Luke knew him as, and Ben knew he needed his full trust."
Posted on 12/25/15 at 10:13 pm to VaBamaMan
quote:Well technically (and this will incite a riot), she doesn't HAVE to be related to anyone. The Force could just be reaching out to her.
It called to her, but were they all her memories? We also hear both voices of Obi-Wan in that flashback. Including old Ben calling her name. Something she would have no memory of.
I mean, it's a big galaxy out there, there are lots of bloodlines. She could just be Rey, not related to anyone.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 10:15 pm to VaBamaMan
If Obi Wan does indeed appear, I could see them making McGregor look like Alec Guiness. It will piss a lot of the "purists" off, but I'd be all for it if it makes for a more compelling story.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 10:27 pm to Scoob
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Well technically (and this will incite a riot), she doesn't HAVE to be related to anyone. The Force could just be reaching out to her.
I mean, it's a big galaxy out there, there are lots of bloodlines. She could just be Rey, not related to anyone.
No riot. I'd be fine with it. Just too many things point to Luke. From her first scenes, including the helmet staring at the wastes. Maz leading her to say Luke's name as to who she should seek out. To Luke's reaction at the end. He visibly teared up to see it was her. If it had been Kylo, I imagine it would have been tired resignation.
Though, I can't get the full statement from Maz out of my head. Paraphrasing "You know who you are waiting for is never coming back, but there is another you need to seek out for your future."
Or something like that.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 10:58 pm to VaBamaMan
Can't decide what shirt I want
Posted on 12/25/15 at 11:01 pm to Decatur
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Is she suppose to be related to anyone that anyone we know
I this she is Leia and Hans daughter. Kylo is the Jedi who turned on Luke so Leia ad Han decided to hide her at the request of Luke. Maybe to protect her.
Han new that and that's why he wanted her to join him.
Just my thoughts.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 11:42 pm to catholictigerfan
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What sealed it for me was actually the music they choose to use near the end of the movie. Next time you go watch it pay attention to the melody that plays when Leia and Rey hug. It should, if you know the music from ROTJ
That was the same music that ended ESB. It's part of Han and Leia's theme. It's also played in ROTJ, but I don't see how that cinches her being Luke's daughter. If anything, it makes me lean more towards her being Leia's daughter.
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 12/25/15 at 11:49 pm to VaBamaMan
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Just too many things point to Luke.
Which is precisely why it is not Luke.
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