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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:15 pm to CockCommander
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He should have been either dead or retired long before this new series even began.
He was retired but the First Order captured before being rescued by the resistance (some where in one of the new canon books). I kinda agree with you there but you have him in two movies now and you kill him off like that? I don't know, it just sits wrong with me given his character.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:15 pm to Mad_Mardigan
I checked out at Leia “Mary fricking Poppins” Organa’s flying scene. Unfortunately, I still had two more fricking hours to go.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:16 pm to Burhead
That’s fair.
I didn’t like his inclusion in TFA. Would rather them make up a new character.
I didn’t like his inclusion in TFA. Would rather them make up a new character.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:17 pm to JabarkusRussell
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Also, how the hell did the First Order have so much money to be so dominant in secret while the Resistance is nothing but the remaining members on the Falcon?
My question is didn’t the First Order and the Resistance basically kill each other off? I don’t see how Kylo Ren is going to manage to get the resources when Starkiller Base and almost his entire armada has been destroyed, not to mention Snoke having a terrifying presence. In a galaxy of hundreds of trillions, I just don’t see where the First Order is a threat at all anymore.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:18 pm to Salamander_Wilson
Lol no that was what sparked Luke to get involved.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:18 pm to Yellerhammer5
Really? Checked out? You weren't excited to learn that not only does Leia have force powers but that they seem pretty strong for her to be able to survive all of that?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:19 pm to FearTheFish
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Why does everyone who can use the Force have to be a blood relative of a Skywalker?
That’s not what i said. I said Star Wars is a Skywalker story. There are plenty of other interesting stories to be told. I enjoy Rebels and I loved Clone Wars. Ashoka Tano is a fantastic character. Rogue One was a great movie.
But the original Saga is about the Skywalkers. The prequels were admittedly bad. But at least they still felt like Star Wars.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:19 pm to apfour21
The yoda scene completely changed how I was feeling about the movie. After Rey left and Luke was being a pussy, Yoda (the ultimate master of the force) showed up and made Luke became a non bitch.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:20 pm to elprez00
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But the original Saga is about the Skywalkers
There's still two characters with Skywalker blood running around. It's still very much a Skywalker story.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:20 pm to CockCommander
People complained about the The Force Awakens but outside of Death Star 3.0, I loved everything about it. It's so much better than this. Rian said the film was originally 3 hours. I can't imagine what filler he cut if he kept the casino arc. I did love Rey pissing off the island care-takers at least.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:22 pm to JabarkusRussell
One of the few pluses is the space battles and I absolutely loved the design of the resistance's Mon Cal cruiser I just wished it survived.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:23 pm to Burhead
I would really compare this movie to The 5th Element in terms of how bonkers it is
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:25 pm to CockCommander
That Resistance ship was named the Raddus (the Admiral in Rogue One). BTW, Luke never gave Rey her third lesson. I was really hoping we got to see Rey and Kylo having training montages co-currently like Drago and Rocky.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:26 pm to Mad_Mardigan
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You weren't excited to learn that not only does Leia have force powers but that they seem pretty strong for her to be able to survive all of that?
No, because Leia’s force powers were revealed in 1983.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:27 pm to OMLandshark
The First Order was simply the reunification of the Imperial Fleet. The Empire permitted all kinds of corrupt stuff (slavery, especially) to go down as long as they got a cut of the action. They bought in bulk, which kept the corporate class happy and well fed.
The Empire didn't disappear after ROTJ. The vast majority of the fleet was still out there. The vast majority of the Galaxy was still under the rule of Imperial governors. It simply became less centralized in those areas they still controlled while the republic established a loose control over a wide area, sorta like the Hellenic Empire after the death of Alexander. The Ptolomy's still ran Egypt, the Selucids ran Babylon, etc. However, the new republic was largely toothless and ineffective (see America under the Articles of Confederation). Even after the Republic struck an uneasy peace with the Imperial Remnants, there was always way on the fringes. The Republic didn't have a standing army.
As for the money, corruption pays. Slavery pays. Conscription pays. Extortion pays. Big military industrial contracts pay. The Republic's economy was never stable, meaning the financiers were never happy. The Empire brought stability for the money class.
The Empire didn't disappear after ROTJ. The vast majority of the fleet was still out there. The vast majority of the Galaxy was still under the rule of Imperial governors. It simply became less centralized in those areas they still controlled while the republic established a loose control over a wide area, sorta like the Hellenic Empire after the death of Alexander. The Ptolomy's still ran Egypt, the Selucids ran Babylon, etc. However, the new republic was largely toothless and ineffective (see America under the Articles of Confederation). Even after the Republic struck an uneasy peace with the Imperial Remnants, there was always way on the fringes. The Republic didn't have a standing army.
As for the money, corruption pays. Slavery pays. Conscription pays. Extortion pays. Big military industrial contracts pay. The Republic's economy was never stable, meaning the financiers were never happy. The Empire brought stability for the money class.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:28 pm to Yellerhammer5
Interesting too that the people clamoring for the Thrawn story are probably also complaining about Leia having powers when that is part of the Thrawn trilogy.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:28 pm to CockCommander
Lucas has to be loving the fact that he is no longer the most hated director in the series.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:31 pm to kingbob
Still, it looks like both sides wiped out like 95% of the others forces. It’d be as if almost all of the Soviets and Nazi forces were wiped out in Stalingrad except for like 2,000 people, including the leaders. For the rest of the world, it’s turned into a “who cares”?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:32 pm to JabarkusRussell
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Lucas has to be loving the fact that he is no longer the most hated director in the series.
The guy made Attack of the Clones. That film is irredeemable. This had its moments.
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