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Spielberg, Lucas predict "implosion" of film industry

Posted on 6/13/13 at 9:48 am
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 9:48 am
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Steven Spielberg on Wednesday predicted an "implosion" in the film industry is inevitable, whereby a half dozen or so $250 million movies flop at the box office and alter the industry forever. What comes next -- or even before then -- will be price variances at movie theaters, where "you're gonna have to pay $25 for the next Iron Man, you're probably only going to have to pay $7 to see Lincoln." He also said that Lincoln came "this close" to being an HBO movie instead of a theatrical release.

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Lucas and Spielberg told USC students that they are learning about the industry at an extraordinary time of upheaval, where even proven talents find it difficult to get movies into theaters. Some ideas from young filmmakers "are too fringe-y for the movies," Spielberg said. "That's the big danger, and there's eventually going to be an implosion — or a big meltdown. There's going to be an implosion where three or four or maybe even a half-dozen megabudget movies are going to go crashing into the ground, and that's going to change the paradigm."

Lucas lamented the high cost of marketing movies and the urge to make them for the masses while ignoring niche audiences. He called cable television "much more adventurous" than film nowadays.

"I think eventually the Lincolns will go away and they're going to be on television," Lucas said. "As mine almost was," Spielberg interjected. "This close -- ask HBO -- this close."

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Spielberg added that he had to co-own his own studio in order to get Lincoln into theaters.

"The pathway to get into theaters is really getting smaller and smaller," Lucas said.

Full story.

I had no idea Lincoln was close to being an HBO movie.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 9:53 am to
That isn't an implosion........and it's happened a bunch.......

For every flop, there is a hangover, a blair witch,etc.......

And so what if Lincoln would have went HBO route? It still would have been an acting masterpiece.

Only thing I agree with in that article is that with the way Netflix, Amazon, Hudu, and TV shows can be watched online.........

Cable is the route to go to make it.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 9:55 am to
Yeah being an HBO film is not a bad thing because HBO kicks a$$ with everything they put out.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52410 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 9:57 am to
Yep. HBO has a lot of street cred right now with quality of movies and series they are putting out.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38662 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:00 am to
Maybe if Hollywood didn't cook the books so that middle of the road films were a failure we might not have this problem.

Spielberg and Lucas seem to want to blame fans, passive aggressively of course, when this is all on Hollywood.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 11:23 am
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:06 am to
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will be price variances at movie theaters, where "you're gonna have to pay $25 for the next Iron Man, you're probably only going to have to pay $7 to see Lincoln."
I never really understood why this wasn't the case to begin with.

I think a few years ago, I mentioned that the big, big blockbusters, Avatar, etc could charge 50% more per ticket do better
Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:09 am to
only change i see is more movies going straight to VOD.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:11 am to
The film industry has had a couple of seismic changes over time due to court cases, financial irresponsibility, and other reasons. This will be no different.


I seriously doubt we'll get stratified ticket prices, even though that's the kind of shite Lucas would have wanted to pull back in 1999 when I was a movie theater peon showing "his movie" and dealing with the list of demands that entailed.



Changes in marketing and distribution may help fix this model, such as focusing more on online marketing vs. broadcasting on TV, radio, and print, using digital prints with the new projectors rather than having to create and ship 4,000+ celluloid prints for a wide opening, etc.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:11 am to
Maybe the studios could try not spending $250 million on a piece of shite
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104065 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:12 am to
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Spielberg and Lucas seem to want to blame fans, passive aggressively of course, when this is all on Hollywood.


Lucas can personally kiss my arse.

He was given so much control by studios and movie theaters when he did the Star Wars prequel trilogy that it isn't funny.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:17 am to
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Maybe the studios could try not spending $250 million on a piece of shite


This. Everyone is trying to make giant, special effects laden films right now. Small films are being pushed to the wayside. Everything has to have a huge budget, tons of CGI and some kind of super hero. Don't get me wrong, I love some of the summer popcorn flicks like everyone else. But the smaller films are slowly being pushed out. Pretty Sad.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:23 am to
Play it safe with stupid (supposedly) mass appeal.

Movie industry has been heading down the road of simply producing a McDonald's menu for awhile now (you only get a few choices) and we all know what they are.

Hope the model does implode and begins anew.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:27 am to
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Maybe the studios could try not spending $250 million on a piece of shite

fricking this. Dropping $200+ million on CGI does not make a movie great. Use that money on developing the fricking script.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:30 am to
Amen. The Grey was one of my favorite movies of last year. It had a budget of $25 million. The problem is they released it in January. If they would have spent some money promoting the movie and released it when the rest of the good movies are coming out, we're looking at a big hit.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74021 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:32 am to
when adam sandler needs a 100mm budget for one of his crappy comedies, you know the industry is doomed
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4805 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:43 am to
Hollywood only has itself to blame for that mess.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:44 am to
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when adam sandler needs a 100mm budget for one of his crappy comedies, you know the industry is doomed

I honestly can't remember the last time I saw Adam Sandler in a movie.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31554 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:48 am to
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And so what if Lincoln would have went HBO route? It still would have been an acting masterpiece.


Just the idea that HBO has become an attractive option for a filmmaker like Spielberg and a movie like Lincoln is huge. HUGE.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
49017 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 11:11 am to
I have gotten more enjoyment out of watching original TV series on FX, AMC, and HBO the past few years than I have any movie.
Life of Pi I really enjoyed because of the visuals, not so much the story.
Lincoln I enjoyed because the acting took a fairly well-known historical occurrence and made it both relatable and dramatic.
Django Unchained is the only movie in recent memory that I watched and was really impressed by the quality of writing and dialogue.

Otherwise, I have to turn to those TV series to actually feel like I'm participating in some interesting character and plot development.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38662 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 11:23 am to
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Maybe if Hollywood didn't cook the books so that middle of the road films were a failure we might not have this problem.


Had to edit

This is the practice that is ruining it. Either a movie is a giant success (IM, Avengers, Batman, etc.) or the films is a giant failure (John Carter).

Even though JC wasn't a failure by any chance, they have controlled the press to make them think it was.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 11:24 am
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