re: 'Sound of Freedom' scores 92% Rotten Tomatoes rating ahead of July 4 premiere

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why do you think you felt the need to discredit this movie and this movement.

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Isn’t it obvious? He supports child……. Ah nvm.

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There's a huge rhetorical distinction

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Nah, saying that a movie will likely suck is in fact a comment on the movie. No quibbling bullshite is going to change that.

Nor is the cheap trick of appealing to my opinion.

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Globally, you're much more likely to be forced into manual labor than sex slavery (child or adult).

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So, in your opinion just how much child slavery and molestation is acceptable?

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I’m sure there is….but why support a guy that is actually causing more damage? You guys have sadly fallen for the shiny hook he presents by cranking the emotions to 1000%

His “missions” where they go into these foreign counties posing as tourists looking for kids? Yeah that’s making it worse. The areas they are going to are not sex slave tourist areas. But them going there posing as sex tourists is actually creating artificial markets for these kids. You have a group of white guys going into poor foreign areas saying they are looking for kids for money…what do you think that encourages?

Again they are doing more harm than good. This guy’s ego has him as some super GI Joe saving allllll these kids and exaggerating what he’s actually done.

And taking away focus from the real issues going on right here in our country with trafficking. The more common and prevalent cases that have nothing to do with being trafficked to foreign countries.

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Are you an expert on human trafficking like you were covid, when you told dumb rednecked hicks to get the vax and wear (what they have confirmed now are worthless cloth and paper masks?)

Tell us all about NXIVM in the USA. I presume you also have expertise on the human, drug, gun, child trafficking in the CONUS on the Southern border of the United States.

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His “missions” where they go into these foreign counties posing as tourists looking for kids? Yeah that’s making it worse. The areas they are going to are not sex slave tourist areas. But them going there posing as sex tourists is actually creating artificial markets for these kids

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That’s like saying “to catch a predator” created new pedophiles/minor attracted persons.

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Soooo, basic Christianity is considered "extreme beliefs" by Glieberman.

Got it.

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Yep...I mean even the whole thinking the gov are protecting pedo is not extreme. Need I remind you that all democrats and govenrmen support this:

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At a NYC pride march. No blow back nada...they want to noramlized pedoism and anyone against them is "extreme beliefs" anyone that call them out on it is "extreme beliefs."

Right there in broad daylight. Plans to rape little childrens and the gov do nothing NBC say its "normal". No wonder disney tried to sit on this movie after the fight they have with Florida over going after children.

Thats frick up.

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Cite me this data.

I'm not disputing it, but, as I have shown many times in this thread, words matter and charlatans are fast and loose with terminologies.

Which specific activities are surpassing illegal arms deals and where did you get that data?

I am going to wager that's child trafficking and not its subset, child sex trafficking.

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I have not ignored your response which, to me, seems very reasonable. Medical tests in preparation for a physician consultation and the consultation itself have occupied me. I have not been intentionally rude.

I think you have legitimate questions.

Having written that, the “I’m just being blunt and telling it like it is, how the cow eats the cabbage” manner you sometimes present unnecessarily invites criticism towards you personally and causes reasonable concerns you express to fade into the background noise of battle. Also, inadvertently I’m sure, you come across as trying to distract attention away from child sex trafficking and towards entirely different categories of human trafficking/slavery.

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I am going to wager that's child trafficking and not its subset, child sex trafficking.

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This sort of sums up what you’re asking.

If you have done any research, as I believe you have, you’re aware consistently reliable statistics are hard to find, are spread everywhere from official agencies and departments of governments, NGOs, or private corporations or institutions or to societies who amass data of all types to sell, to promote change, or to seek funding.

In addition, research is complicated by the various sets and subsets of categories and criteria such as you have referenced here and in some of your other posts. Add to this the fact that some people, governments, or other organizations have vested reasons to either hide or inflate true numbers such that it makes an amateur’s job difficult.

All the information, good, bad, or corrupted is out there in too many places and are too segmented to provide one or two precise comprehensive links. That’s my disclaimer.

As a basic premise this statement is enlightening:

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There are no accurate statistics of how many people are involved, but it is estimated that in the last 30 years, trafficking in women and children in Asia for sexual exploitation alone has victimized over 30 million people.
-Centre for International Crime Prevention
(quoted in ASIA Society article Trafficking of Children for Prostitution and the UNICEF Response

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From the same ASIA Society article:

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Between 5,000 and 7,000 Nepali girls are trafficked every year across the border to India. Most of them end up as sex workers in brothels in Bombay and New Delhi. [and also this] An estimated 10,000 women and girls from neighboring countries have been lured into commercial sex establishments in Thailand. Recent Thai Government policy to eradicate child prostitution means that fewer girls are being trafficked from northern Thailand and more girls and women are being brought from Myanmar, southern China, Laos and Cambodia (estimates by ECPAT [End Child Prostitution in Asian Tourism]).

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Children outright abducted, sold by impoverished parents or other relatives/caregivers, passed along through bogus child care facilities, those who are homeless, children in the midst of tribal wars and tribal slavery, and a myriad of other reasons is a big unknown number.

•Trafficked children (under what age? 18?, 15?, 5?, who knows?) make up as high as 50% of that big number and as low as 27%, the most recent number used.
•Males are possibly as high as 30% and as low as 18%. I think these percentages of males hold on the general population of trafficked persons, persons trafficked for sex, children, and children trafficked for sex. I’m using the lowest conservative numbers for my calculations.

Extrapolating from the 30 million over 30 years (number of women and children trafficked in Asia alone) some rough estimates emerge using the most conservative approach.
•27% (representing total sex trafficked children) of 30 million total Asian women and children over 30 years is 8,100,000.
• 18% (representing male sex trafficked children) of 8 million total sex trafficked children is 1,440,000. These numbers suggest that over a thirty year period the following:
• 1,440,000 (male sex trafficked children)
• 8,100,000 (female sex trafficked children )
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• 9,540,000 (total Asian sex trafficked children)

This equates to 318,000 Asian children per year trafficked for sex. And this is only an extremely conservative estimate for Asia. Add to that Africa, South America, North America, and Europe, I believe numbers approaching 2,000,000 children per year trafficked globally for sex aren’t unreasonable or unrealistic. How the yearly monetary value of this is calculated to compare with the illegal arms and drug trade is beyond me.

I believe 2,000,000 children a year is low and could possibly be doubled. But life is so cheap and devalued that few care about children living out their lives in an endless, unimaginable, unrelenting horror so long as they are warm and safe and can debate abstractly how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. If the movie Sound Of Freedom can shed light on this evil to those unaware and make the complacent uncomfortable I’m a supporter.

Yes human trafficking (and all its subsets) are big in Africa, Asia, and Eastern Europe. This is almost all organized crime-based and we can't really do much about it. We can virtue signal (as many in this thread are doing), but that's about it. We would have to basically do a War on Drugs, but in other countries, and we saw how effective the WOD has been in the US where we had jurisdiction and less corrupt LEO.

The best we can do is engage in more free trade policies to hopefully raise the standard of living in these countries. Or accept lots of asylum seekers. Neither policy is popular with a certain population segment (who yells the loudest about this issue right now).

Domestic child sex trafficking is typically what is being referenced, which is a whole different ballgame. Different causes, different behaviors, and different populations.

The problem is when people dishonestly are trying to discuss one subset but rely on examples/data from the other. Where this gets real bad is when the Satanic Panic archetypes (now relied on by the Q crowd) try to use this dishonesty. As I just posted on the poli board sister thread:

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That's why I have to keep asking: what, specifically, are you referencing? Nobody is arguing that human trafficking doesn't exist, but people dishonestly make this claim (including you) when others state there isn't a cabal of powerful people trafficking children for sex and sacrifice rituals (a typical Qtard belief).

You can believe human trafficking, sex trafficking, child trafficking, and child sex trafficking all exist without that bullshite.

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Also, specifically, I wanted data on this:

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that has caught and passed the illegal arms trade,

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I will be 100 SFP dollars that total human trafficking is surpassing the illegal arms trade, but not sex trafficking or the even more rare child sex trafficking. That's why I was asking for the data. If I'm right, it shows exactly the bait and switch argument I was referencing above.

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These are astronomically poor takes w

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No they aren’t. Those are concerns others that actually deal with anti trafficking groups have about O.U.R. This isn’t my take but of someone I know that actually has tried to do something about trafficking here in the US.

They go into these poor foreign cities all wannabe GI bros “undercover” acting like American tourists wanting to buy kids

If you do that in a foreign town that actually was NEVER A SEX TOURIST city what do you think that does? You have now given the underground shady folks on that town a new product they can potentially sell…kids. Again….what do you think they do when they hear that rich American men are now showing up inquiring about where they can get kids??? Now kids are targets to fill this new “demand”. How is OUR “helping” in those situations.

You can totally be against child trafficking and still call out a suspicious organization and founder of it. Tim Ballard’s reports are questionable, many think he is greatly exaggerating his “rescues”.

And of course they are gonna encourage everyone to buy more tickets…..if makes them money after all

Not necessarily if their “facts” are false and pushing a certain politically based fear porn agenda.

More LGBTQ kids and black and brown teenagers from broken homes are suffering from trafficking here in the US. Do these “Christians” give a frick about those kids? Nope