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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:13 pm to
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But isn't any attention brought to the issue a good thing?

Not if that attention has a lot of hidden "and thens" (You know improv so you should get that).

That's how this argument ultimately goes. A reasonable initial stance is provided (child sex trafficking is wrong), but that's not all you have to buy b/c you have to adapt complete adherence to the totality of the belief system (the "and then"). If you reject the crazy "and then" ("the elites of the world engage in child slavery and sexual/ritual sacrifice"), then they snake their way backwards to the original, reasonable point and claim you don't support that reasonable point...how crazy ("You support child trafficking? That's terrible).

That's how cults operate.

That's why you see such repetitive, NPC responses (cults are big on repetition, too).

Also, combating this problem in any meaningful way will NOT look like what this guy does, so focusing on the story told in this manner is also ineffective towards actually doing something (but it does permit virtue signaling).
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:19 pm to
You should take your support of child trafficking back to the political board.

People like to talk about movies without hearing your mealy mouthed bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:20 pm to
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You should take your support of child trafficking back to the political board.

See, Owl?
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:20 pm to
I get the wider implications and all the political and societal and religious overtones I just thought it was a conversation between friends

By the way for the 20th anniversary you should have me as a guest on your tiger droppings podcast because I would be more interesting than Paige and PJ combined times 10
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 7:24 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:26 pm to
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tiger droppings podcast

We're not allowed to talk about that. I almost got banned without ever posting about it
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:28 pm to
well shite

I had a Glenn Frye reference all worked out
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:30 pm to
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You should take your support of child trafficking back to the political board.

See, Owl?

well frick

good call Slow
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:36 pm to
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know people on here give you grief


Give me grief??? Some of those politards have said I should be killed cause my beliefs don’t align with theirs. The same ones that then go on in another thread and preach about what “good Christians” they are.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:42 pm to
typical LA. trash behavior, Im not one of them
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:48 pm to
I think specifically Watson

It’s that looney toon Angel chick that wished I was hung
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 8:22 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:50 pm to
I wish I was hung
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:23 pm to
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More LGBTQ kids and black and brown teenagers from broken homes are suffering from trafficking here in the US. Do these “Christians” give a frick about those kids? Nope


You're the only one making a distinction between "categories" of children here. Deflection from the topic, nothing more.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 8:24 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:27 pm to
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You're the only one making a distinction between "categories" of children here.


Now do economic migrants coming to the US illegally from Central America to avoid human trafficking.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 8:28 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:35 pm to
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Now do economic migrants coming to the US illegally from Central America to avoid human trafficking.


Stopping illegal border crossings into the USA would end an extremely large amount of trafficking.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:41 pm to
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Stopping illegal border crossings into the USA would end an extremely large amount of trafficking.

No the people would still be trafficked, just within Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, etc. by organized crime.

Again, this is where definitions become VERY important, especially discussing what kind of trafficking is going on.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65900 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:53 pm to
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No the people would still be trafficked, just within Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, etc. by organized crime.


This argument doesn't make trafficking into the USA a "good" thing. We would stop a large percentage of the trafficking trade if we simply closed the US border to illegal crossing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:14 pm to
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This argument doesn't make trafficking into the USA a "good" thing.

People fleeing trafficking is not trafficking.

Sure, actual trafficking into the US isn't good, but it's not really a huge population in terms of international human trafficking. You have to focus on Asia, Africa, and Eastern Europe to put a dent in the total numbers.

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We would stop a large percentage of the trafficking trade if we simply closed the US border to illegal crossing.

That would just circulate the same trafficking outside of the US.

That would stop a small percentage of the US domestic trafficking, though, yes. That population is primarily US citizen runaways from shitty homes, though. A wall 100 miles high won't affect their lives.
Posted by WreckinRams05
Houston, Texas
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:18 pm to
The point of the wall was to funnel into choke points
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:37 pm to
He’s a moron, just look at how he describes, in absolutes, things he knows nothing about. The real tell is he doesn’t want anybody else snooping around these issues.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:38 pm to
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He’s a moron,




quote:

The real tell is he doesn’t want anybody else snooping around these issues.

Economic disparities and black markets leading to exploitation areas for organized crime?

Why don't YOU want to talk about the real issues?
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 9:43 pm
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