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re: 'Sound of Freedom' scores 92% Rotten Tomatoes rating ahead of July 4 premiere

Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:23 am to
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15451 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:23 am to
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this BS movie is making it seem like literally kidnapping and moving across the borders is prevalent, when it’s very rare, is taking focus from the real issue and allowing more children to get hurt.


Certain types of cancers are rare, too. Should we not be studying them and trying to prevent them as well?

I would like to ask this question, is the sex trafficking that this movie is predicated on actually going on in the real world? Yes? Then why are you and SFP shitting on this movie and this man because he’s doing what he can to stop it?

Nobody in this thread at all is attempting to say that what this movie touches on is the norm when it comes to sex trafficking. But that does not mean that it is irrelevant and not deserving of its own attention.

Frankly, the two of you have been shitty posters for a long time passing yourselves off as some kind of extremely wise moderates above it all. I’ve read the receipts on you regarding COVID, nurse, you’re a company girl through and through. Thinking because you’re a “medical professional” that you somehow were more informed and everyone else’s opinion on the matter was not only wrong but stupid (and usually typed out in a condescending slant), no matter how steeped in data and analytics they were.

And you, SFP, I believe that you’ve been thoroughly outed as a fricking loser all over this site. You are not nearly as smart as you think you are. Considering you’re typically on the losing end of the many arguments you start. You’re not much better than AggieHank86. In fact, the two of you are all too similar.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:19 am to
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Nobody in this thread at all is attempting to say that what this movie touches on is the norm when it comes to sex trafficking.



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passing yourselves off as some kind of extremely wise

Intelligent, not wise.

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moderates

Only people in polar echo chambers think I'm a moderate

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I believe that you’ve been thoroughly outed as a fricking loser all over this site.



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Considering you’re typically on the losing end of the many arguments you start.

But the thing is, I'm not. Take this thread. People haven't refuted what I have posted in any meaningful way, but they will pound their chest in victory...for...reasons..and they'll use ad hom attacks, strawman arguments, and illogical responses in the process....like your post.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:21 am to
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He believes sex trafficking reflects poorly on his political idols

No. Believing in fantastical mythology being used as a manipulative emotional tool would reflect poorly on intellectuals I respect.

But you go straw man to prove my point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:25 am to
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I thought we were dealing with a multi-billion dollar industry that has caught and passed the illegal arms trade,

Cite me this data.

I'm not disputing it, but, as I have shown many times in this thread, words matter and charlatans are fast and loose with terminologies.

Which specific activities are surpassing illegal arms deals and where did you get that data?

I am going to wager that's child trafficking and not its subset, child sex trafficking.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15451 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:36 am to
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Yes, it is dumbass.

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Intelligent, not wise.


Either word, you’re not particularly filled with much of either.

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Only people in polar echo chambers think I'm a moderate


Sure thing, buddy. Sure thing. At best you’re a moderate. At worst, you’re the same contrarian douche bag attorney that gets his rocks off getting made fun of on this site arguing with people. Which is why you’ve got so many posts. Sad, really.

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But the thing is, I'm not. Take this thread. People haven't refuted what I have posted in any meaningful way, but they will pound their chest in victory...for...reasons..and they'll use ad hom attacks, strawman arguments, and illogical responses in the process....like your post.


The thing is, you’re poopooing a movie that you haven’t even seen yet on the MTVB. Not only are you doing that, but you’re also saying what this man did isn’t worthy of praise. You’re essentially calling him a liar and that because the topic of this movie is rare, we shouldn’t care about it.

Question, are there international human trafficking rings?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:47 am to
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You’re essentially calling him a liar


Do some research on the guy….he has been investigated for misuse of donor money. His organization brought in like 50 million one year. So saying “he’s just doing it to help the kids” is bogus. There is $$$$$ at stake as well. Not to mention the organization and the main actor involved are both well known to promote Qanon conspiracy theories in the past and present.

He has also been thought to have widely exaggerated his claims of rescue efforts.

I’m not saying child trafficking doesn’t happen (although it doesn’t happen the way the movie is portraying usually…it’s closer to home like SFP said). You guys are being swept away by a very emotional topic and letting a guy fool you into believing his mission is the one you should support.

When there are much more legit anti trafficking groups that do more good and aren’t being investigated for misuse of donor funds.

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37855 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:55 am to
Similar to the flaming hot Cheeto movie, the "true story/person" this is based on seems to be less than portrayed.

Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15451 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:03 am to
There’s some key words in your post. Like, “investigated” or “thought to have”

I ask you again, are there really international human trafficking rings? Yes or no?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:11 am to
I’m sure there is….but why support a guy that is actually causing more damage? You guys have sadly fallen for the shiny hook he presents by cranking the emotions to 1000%

His “missions” where they go into these foreign counties posing as tourists looking for kids? Yeah that’s making it worse. The areas they are going to are not sex slave tourist areas. But them going there posing as sex tourists is actually creating artificial markets for these kids. You have a group of white guys going into poor foreign areas saying they are looking for kids for money…what do you think that encourages?

Again they are doing more harm than good. This guy’s ego has him as some super GI Joe saving allllll these kids and exaggerating what he’s actually done.

And taking away focus from the real issues going on right here in our country with trafficking. The more common and prevalent cases that have nothing to do with being trafficked to foreign countries.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
4000 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:14 am to
The entire audience applauded after the special message from Caviezel
following the movie.

I see that Sound of Freedom outperformed the new Raiders movie.

People care.


Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15451 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:36 am to
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I’m sure there is


Ok
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 7:54 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:56 am to
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The thing is, you’re poopooing a movie

I haven't commented on the movie

Take a lap. Try again.

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Question, are there international human trafficking rings?

You need to define these terms, but I'll roughly say: Yes, mostly for labor and primarily in SE Asia and Africa, along with authoritarian countries.

Now, in the US there is a much smaller industry than abroad, but it's dominated by coyotes taking economic migrants into this country illegally (but voluntarily, in most cases) and drug smuggling operations.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156644 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:50 am to
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I haven't commented on the movie

Which seems weird, given that you're posting on the M/TV board in a thread ABOUT this movie. No?

Perhaps it is you that should:
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Take a lap. Try again.


I can't believe Chicken let me :coco2: emoticon falter. WTF.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15451 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:52 am to
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I haven't commented on the movie

Take a lap. Try again.


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I probably won't watch the movie for what blueboy said earlier. The actual movie product is likely bad.


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Theaters are reserved for audio-visual masterpieces. There have been only 2 options for theater matriculation since my last trip: Dune and Maverick. If I didn't make it for them, no way I'm making it for this movie.


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You need to define these terms, but I'll roughly say: Yes, mostly for labor and primarily in SE Asia and Africa, along with authoritarian countries.


Thank you
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 8:54 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70825 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:40 pm to
I quoted you lol. Your dishonestly is endless.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
6131 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:57 pm to
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Which seems weird, given that you're posting on the M/TV board in a thread ABOUT this movie. No?

Perhaps it is you that should:


This seems like a dumb argument you guys are having.

That said, the vast majority of arguments and movie insults related to the more mainstream or populist films discussed here are made by people who have not seen the movie being discussed.

See the people still bitching about Dial of Destiny based on the YouTubers who told them to hate it as a concurrent example.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11959 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 2:59 pm to
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lsunurse


Thank you, all knowing gatekeeper

I will now pretend sex trafficking isn't a big deal because a random guy received donations and the media labeled him fringe!

I can return to my regularly scheduled viewing habits created by the pure and honest content creators in Hollywood who definitely don't participate in child abuse and do everything "for the children." We have all been rescued
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27243 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:09 pm to
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Yet here it is.

You and the other pedos here are touchy. Don’t get your panties in a wad.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:12 pm to
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I quoted you

You quoted nothing about my "political idols".

It would be difficult to do, as I have none.

*ETA: did you mean ideals?
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:13 pm to
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I probably won't watch the movie for what blueboy said earlier. The actual movie product is likely bad.

Not a comment on the movie.

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Theaters are reserved for audio-visual masterpieces. There have been only 2 options for theater matriculation since my last trip: Dune and Maverick. If I didn't make it for them, no way I'm making it for this movie

Not a comment on the movie.

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